GOOD GIRLS Fall Guy

SPEAKER_00 0:09

Hi, welcome to this episode of Sass and Sips. Today we're talking about good girls, season four, episode three, Fall Guy. I'm Lisa, and I'm sipping on mango lemonade. And it's got a little tequila in it.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

That was my next question. I'm like, uh-huh. And yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Yummy. And I'm your co-host, Agnes. That's me. And I'm just drinking Gregor iced coffee. With Kalua. Misses looking at me like, and um, yeah. Sorry, my brain went.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

So drinks.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

You stink. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

I have three hot takes.

SPEAKER_01 1:08

Only three?

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Yes, only three. Actually, four. See, I knew it. Young Dean is they casted that character perfect if he was playing young Greggles.

SPEAKER_01 1:29

Yes. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

I was like, oh, oh wow. Wait, who? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

Exactly. That was my thoughts too. Cause like, oh, Gregg, but that's I think, but that's not Annie. Because I remember the Beth from I'm like, but because Beth was good. Yes, Beth was good. She had her body music, yes. Down path. But I remember that young Beth from the previous flashback. And I'm like, oh, Gregg's. I'm like, but that's not Annie. That's Beth. What the fuck? Okay. But yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

Hot take doof. The camera work at the first jail cell, the the first jail visit. I really love the way they did that.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

That was kind of cool.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

Hot take number three. Yes, Agent Hot Mess.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

You fucking go, girl. I love that. I was proud of her.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

Yeah, yeah. And number four, happy birthday to Alex.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

Happy birthday, Alex. My my husband. My lobster. Your lobster. Lisa and Alex are each other's lobsters, each other's penguins, each other's wolves. Don't go that far. Just happy birthday. Happy birthday, Alex. From your other wife. Your non-sexual wife. I just hope I'm gonna dress, that's all. People are like, wait, what? I mean, I help Lisa dress too, so it's nothing weird.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

Yeah, that still sounds like, but okay. All right.

SPEAKER_01 3:17

Hint, that's why I said it. So this episode for me was it was okay. It was good. I was just like, okay, are we over with yet? It was it was a it was at this point, I think it was needed because a lot of background information and the character development was definitely needed, don't get me wrong. And I liked it for what it was, don't get me wrong. But at the same time, it's like this is a long hour for me.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

Um, yeah, it kind of has me looking forward to more of the well, that's inappropriate. Why did he do that with Dr. Cohen?

SPEAKER_01 4:01

Everything was good though. Everything was it was a good episode, guys. See you next week, kind of episode. You know, I do have one hot take, and I feel it was a reminder that we good people, you know. I'm not talking about the exceptions, I'm not talking about the crazy people, but good people, we we're not always good. We do have our moments where we fail and flounder. Is it an excuse? Does it negate? Absolutely not. Should we be held accountable when we fail and flounder? Yes. But looking at young Dean and Dean and then post-affair dean and post-irresponsible dean, he is overall like, damn, I think it makes you feel like, damn, was that too hard on him? And then you're like, yeah, no, it wasn't too hard on him. He was definitely an asshole. But you're like, okay, he's not, dare I say it, he's not Trump. He's not a horrible person. He's not Elon Musk, he's not you know what I you might want to add.

SPEAKER_00 5:16

No, because some some people set out to do bad things willingly, and Dean is just a failure at the moment.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Dean is like it was a long moment, granted.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

I'm sure if FOMO was in the dictionary, Dean's picture would be next to it. Yes, Dean just wants to be in a in, you know, he he wants to be included, and and it seems like he's the kind of guy who gets caught up when he's popular.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

Mm-hmm. I.e., and I'm glad you said that, when the kid, like his football team was starting to throw food and he joins in and runs out with them, and then he has that moment like, wait, hold up, let me go back and fix this. Right. He gets caught up in the moment.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Yeah, I mean, he's trying to have accountability, which is important and and it is a good measure of you know, like if a person can take accountability, or can they never apologize? If people if if somebody can never apologize, it kind of makes them a sociopath. And I don't say that Dean's a sociopath, but he still could have been like, guys, don't like don't do this. Like, but that goes back to or don't participate.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

But that was yeah, he gets caught up. So like a toddler. Yeah. But if he was a douchebag, he would never have come back. Exactly. If he was a douchebag, he he's not a bad guy, he really isn't a horrible person. And when you get caught up in the moment as an adult, he does some things, and but when you get caught up in the moment as an adult, it has humor repercussions, you know, i.e., almost losing your house and having an affair and all other shit. Right. But it does take a minute to like backtrack and like wait, hold up.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

Yeah, well, there's the concept bad person versus bad action. Correct. Dean is not a bad person, he just does bad actions. But but I thought that it was interesting the way the episode played out. And then at one point, because you're seeing Dean kind of be a total dick, you know, throwing the stuff, and then, oh, well, let me help you clean up. And then, you know, L O Cool J comes on and he's like, I can't control myself, and also like my name is in the song. Same. So, you know.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Oh, well, that, but I can't control myself either. So same.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

I know, and he and he does say my name in the song, so you know, there's there's always just a little bit of that. But you know, he comes in and he's he's singing and he's mopping, and it's like, okay. And there's a part of me that's like, you know, absolutely like he's a teenager, our teenagers are dumb. He's trying to kind of make amends, and he's helping her clean up, and like obviously he likes her, but at some point, you're like, okay, but that was so long ago, and now it's how many years later, and when are you gonna grow up? And and and stop getting caught up. And I know that the reason Dean is in jail and all that is not because of him, but it is still because of him, it is still because he got caught up and wanted to be in the cool group, even though Beth was doing the shady shit. But I did kind of like that, even though they're trying to almost highlight how Dean is the fuck up and you know, Dean whatever. But when Agent Hot Mess makes that analogy about, oh, your wife is the kind of person who uses people, and you you start to see it's kind of flipped. It's it's Dean who's the one who's kind of like looking for the cool people and bouncing from group to group because but it's and it's not Beth. Beth has always just been the one quietly behind the scenes. So I thought that that was a really a really good um plot like string, you know.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

And unbeknownst to her, her having that conversation and putting the blame on Beth. I mean, yeah, she did it, but that is I believe was a catalyst that made him do what he ended up doing at the end. Because to your point, he's like, wait, that was me. That's always been me.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

And I didn't see it coming, like I didn't really see it. You know, I figured, okay, it's gonna show how the relationship got started and how, you know, like he's always been there for her, because it's it's kind of like on the the top layer, that's what you see. That right, it's easy to see, like, oh look, there's a reason why Dean came to clean up. Never mind the fact that Dean caused the mess. Yeah, you know, her mom is in the hospital, she missed a dance, so he came and sat with her, and you know, yes, truly. But it's because he was that person more so than she. Um also they're running out of husbands to throw in jail. I mean, Stan had a term, Dean Z having his turn, like who is Annie gonna sacrifice? Like, misplacing dog doggy, homeless dude? I mean Mr. Cohen? Like, who's who's who's gonna do time for her? Not Greggles.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

So, let's get this show on the road. I think I think between our hot tags, I think we're done with the episode.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

Yeah, thanks guys. 20 minutes of analysis on a deadline.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

Thanks, guys, for listening to us. We'll see you next week. As you guys have probably heard through our analysis, the show starts off with a flashback showing young Beth and Dean in high school. Dean's helping her clean up the ice cream shop that him and his friends made the mess of. And a later flashback, he shows up and Annie's being Annie Annie's. She goes, she doesn't talk to you. You suck. And he asks Beth to the prom. And this is after she's been kind of like MIA because obviously she's taking care of her mom.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

We also learned that Annie was the one who came up with the name Dean Z.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Yeah. Well, Annie, I don't feel like she shook him down. Annie comes with all the nicknames. I love that. Unfortunately, the night of the dance, Beth is at the hospital tending to her mother, and then Dean comes and spends time with, you know, he um hunts her down after she gets shaked, shaken down by Annie, and just to be there with her. The funny part I liked. He asks her, Do you want anything from the vending machine? She's like, No. And he said, That's good. And I'm thinking because he's gonna say, Oh, because I don't want to move, I like this moment, whatever. He goes, Your sister took me for everything that I got. The present day, Beth is visiting Dean in the really cool scene, in the camera scene that Lisa likes so much. And she tells her, I'm gonna get you out, and he's having none of it. Agent Hot Mess, Lisa's favorite scene, blackmails Dave into getting her some alone time with Dean, but he refuses to speak against Beth. When Dave goes to Phoebe and says, she goes, It was the wife, he was just like, and somehow they're like, Well, she's known him for 20 years. Like, yeah, he's been married to her for 20 years, so it can't be her.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Meanwhile, that kind of goes against well because he he says, Oh, he they've been married for 20 years. He knows what she got into, and that's when Aja Hamas turns around and says, Oh, does your know like your wife doesn't know who you got into, or some shit like that, and he's just like uh what like his I mean he he doesn't say but like his face is like because she calls him out. But I know that it's like it was just that term because because she says it like your wife has no idea who you've gotten into or who you've gotten into, and that's what makes him stop. But that's why I was like, yes, go bitch, go.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

The next scene is what Good Girl is known for with their montages of the girls Explained D's absence slash FBI presence. Ruby and Annie are trying to explain to the kids. He's at a conference and Beth is talking to the other employees as all hell is breaking loose behind her, like the dumpster fire is on fire behind her. Yeah, and she's just like it's fine, everything's fine.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

Well, it's like it's funny because you know, Ruby and Annie are explaining, and it's mostly Annie who leads the kids to believe that somehow Dean is at like a hot sub conference at the North Pole with Santa. We could do that, yeah. And Beth is telling employees, like, yeah, it's a tax thing, and everything's fine. It's gonna be like a snow day. Like, uh sure.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Yeah. Beth is determined to get her hubby out of the clinker. I was hard to say that. I thought it was just the clink. Oh, maybe the clink. See, I don't know about these things. Just because I'm black, doesn't mean I know anything about this shit. Um what does that even mean? Jeez. The joke. You know, black people know about crime and shit. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

I think white people know more about crime, but all right.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

They do, they really do. Conversation side note one of the young employees, we're not gonna go into details about this employee, but there was like, you know, black people rob other people and they end up getting more time, but white people rob corporations and they get less times. So I'm gonna rob like a company. And I was like, okay, and I'm thinking, because I I heard this third hand that this person said this. I said, well, their theory is slightly flawed because rich people rob corporations and rich people get little to no time. So you not only do you have to rob a corporation, you have to be rich on top of that to get no time. So um, I'm sorry, random thought. Okay, but I he was on to something.

SPEAKER_00 16:35

Um the moral of the story: if you want to do crime, you have to be wealthy. Yes. And it doesn't hurt if you're a white guy.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

And if you're a rich white guy, you can rob anyone you want. And it's get you, you know, get a jail free card. Beth goes to Rio to ask him for a loan. He tells her, get a fall guy. And he agrees to give her the money if she sinks the pool ball. She sings the pool ball and she's like, Yeah, I got it. Deal's a deal. He says, sure. I'm gonna hold to my end of the deal. Take it out the money that you owe me. Ha ha ha. She was like, How the hell am I gonna do that? I can't. He goes, get a fall guy. Um so she was like, but Dean little backtrack in the beginning of the scene. She was telling him, like, you know, Dean's in jail, I gotta get him out of jail. He goes, Oh, they'll be out in like three years, it'll be fine. Yeah, she goes fed, no big deal. He goes, and he's gonna come out buff. Maybe you actually want to do him then. I don't. I was like, I love this man. He wasn't exactly wrong though. He goes, you know, you do the crime, you do the time. And she's like, she he didn't do the time, he didn't do the crime, and somehow you never do the time. He goes, I'm just lucky that way. Talking to the girls, and she's a little despondent over the whole situation, and then asking for an update on the hitman guy. And he goes, he wants me to go on a job with him. They're like to Fiji, as I was going to say. Yeah, to Fiji.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

Fiji, I'd be like, when do I need to be ready to leave?

SPEAKER_01 18:28

I would okay, first of all, you will be going a job with you? Yes, that on his own. I'm like, okay, cool. But to Fiji on top of it, shit.

SPEAKER_00 18:44

Huh? I said, I got a passport. When do I need to be ready? I pack light.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

Okay, but I wouldn't use my own passport. He would have to give me like an own, my another like fraudulent passport because I don't want proof that I was there doing this hit.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

Yeah, well, at this point, I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

She's like, I don't care. So the ladies are trying to find a fall guy to take Dean's place. And they make an offer to his co-worker, Eric. And he's ecstatic to get out of his situation to go to this jail. He's so he's going to like the little brochure. He's like, Great, where is this place? He goes, You want me to you're gonna pay me to do this? She goes, actually, you're doing me a favor. And he goes, Well, where is this place that he's flipping through? He goes, You want me to go to jail? He goes, You're gonna give me the most money I've ever had. I've had my own room, endless TV time. Where do I go? And I was like, Oh, that's like me and Lisa. On an all-male campus. An all-male campus. He goes, How's the shower situation? She goes, like, um, I think it's group. He's like, and I yeah, and this reminds me of you and I like kind of wanting like a hospital stay so we could get a break. Oh, yeah. So I he's not wrong in this situation. So they have to find a way to get him into jail, not only get him to go to jail, but since everything is in Dean's name, they need him to do something really, really big so he can go to jail instead of Dean. Ruby goes to her husband. Okay, side note bouncer Stan, you don't realize how built he is until he is in his like black shirt and t-shirt. Like his black shirt.

SPEAKER_00 20:44

Little muzzle shirt. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Yeah. I'm like, oh, okay, Stan, I see you. Ruby goes to Stan and she says, I need to borrow some money. And it's never like, I need to borrow 20 bucks for groceries. No, it's always right.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

He goes in his wallet. Yeah. She's like, Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

No. So she needs him to steal money from his job so they can make another batch of bills. And as he's there, his boss, the owner of the strip club, tells I would talk with him. And he comes, they have a little chit shot, and pretty much he says, I know about the side gigs you're doing with the strippers behind my back. And whatever happened with my money, the bank pickup, that can't happen again. And I'm thinking, well, yeah, I get it. You know, you do something shady, you want your money to be blown up, but at the same time, anyone would be like, well, why that's nothing to do with Stan. Well, it does. But outside looking in. But anywho.

SPEAKER_00 21:52

Right. But as far as the job is concerned, that shouldn't happen. But I guess if you're doing something shady.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Everyone is is all your employees are held accountable to something else happening.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

So but I guess it could kind of come back to stand because the device was in the bag that got on the truck.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

So But he didn't know that the device could have been there. Yeah, it could have been there anytime. It could have. Alright. Yeah, it could have been because it happened. It wasn't it didn't happen on property. It could have been anything. You know what I mean? Eric goes to the bank with the latest batch of cash, and it wasn't a good batch intentionally. And Eric does his part. They call the cops. He gets robbed by the cops and let go. Like what? Yeah. I was like, oh my god. Like, I poor man. Is this why I said poor guy? And I mean, you know. Yeah. Like, you, yeah. And he's like, I've always been invisible, you know. I middle kid of nine, like, I'm no one ever pays any attention to me. So this is not a surprise to me until Dean came along. He actually called me Eric. And he goes, Well, what's did they call you before? And he said, What did they say his name? They called him Scott. Scott. He was like, they're like, Oh, I can see that. Oh, he's like, he's just a really, really good guy. They don't make them like him anymore. Annie and Ben have a little come to Jesus conversation. Annie makes him waffles for breakfast for dinner. And they're frozen ego waffles. And she goes, you know, if you want to spend more time at your dad's, I would understand. I know you hate me. Ben's like, I don't hate you. But at the same time, he's liking the idea of spending more time at his dad's. It's stability. I can understand. Like, I love you, mom, but this is not stable. This is not stability. This is not what a teenager or child needs to be around.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

It's like whether they realize it or not, they do kind of thrive off of a routine. Yes. And that's, you know, when you think about it, it's not really that hard to understand. I mean, think about all the changes they they go through and all the things that happen that they have no control over, no idea what's going on, their feelings, their bodies, their lives. So, like, just to simply know what comes next, you know, at six o'clock, at seven o'clock, or whatever, it's gotta be such a relief for somebody. I mean, even if these have a little bit right, but except that we have a little bit more control over our autonomy and our schedules than children do.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

Right, because so you can imagine as an adults, if we didn't have that autonomy, like as an adult, like we would it's yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

Beth tries to outside are trying to create a symphony, nice and they would make sure I don't know if you feel you better.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

I can't hear it, so won't be in the recording, so yay.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

Gotta be like four different dogs out there.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Just I don't know. Okay. Stella hasn't joined in. Like, I feel like she's like, I want to be part.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

I just I just had, I was like, oh my god, did I leave her outside? Because I'm like, wait, she's not joining in.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

No. She's shook her, she knocked out.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

I mean, her ear is her ear just moved. She's just laying down, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

Beth tries to confess to Phoebe. And Phoebe's like, yeah, it doesn't make a difference. He's Dean has already pled guilty to the charges.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

And she brings up robbing a bank, which I was like, Beth. It starts off a year ago. Beth.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Oh my god. And Phoebe's like, yeah, I don't care. Yeah. But I mean, you're gonna confess, confess to it all. Uh out of I think she would not have. I think she's just like, I want my husband out. Like, I don't think she, I think at this point she wants out of the whole situation. And I think she's not even thinking clearly.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

I'd want my husband out too, but I'd start with what I need to confess to. And if that doesn't work, then I'll backtrack a little. Yeah, little by little. I mean, these are the feds that you you're not asking your friend for someone, these are there are real and harsh ramifications of your confession. So I'm just saying, if they're looking at you for this keep it to white collar. Unless it's white collars and put it right, but unless then you're bringing up the bank robbery to say, and then there was gang friend who made us do it. And I'm not and I'm not trying to say like pass the buck, but I'm just saying, like a lot of this stuff isn't like yeah, they would have been where they were if gang friend and that's true.

SPEAKER_01 27:06

Yes. So like I can give I'm I know I'm gonna do time, but I can give you some, I can give you a bigger fish. But he'll he'll get out. Beth is now home. She's from grocery shopping or whatever, and the hitman's there, and she calls his bluff and then sends him on the on his way. Pretty much, that's that scene. She's like, Yeah, come here, take your clothes off. And she takes her panties off. He's like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you doing? She goes, This is what you want. This is it, let's do this. He's like, No, but I wanted it to go slow. She's like, This is not what this is. I hired you to do the job, so do the fucking job. Yeah, and yet there's another example how a man swears he knows more about what she wants than what she actually wants. And then feels stupid when she's like, No, no. Like, I just want she's like, I want you to have the life you wanted. This is no, I want you to kill this motherfucker. This is what I wanted. This is what I hired you for.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

So Well, and I and I do like that when she walks in, you know, she gets scared and she's like, oh my god, like, and then she's like, Why does everyone feel like they can let themselves into my house? Seriously. And you're kind of expecting Rio. But no, not this time. Uh uh when is it gonna happen that they both let themselves into the house? And be like, hey, I'm Rio. Oh hey, I'm uh Mr. Fitz somebody. I don't know. Fitzpatrick. There's there's um I think it's on SNL that it was like something Fitzpatrick, Patrick, Fitz, whatever, and and um and I can never get the name straight because of like that skit. Okay, have Fitz. So yeah, sorry. Okay, isn't isn't it Fitz something on Scandal also? Fitzgerald is his name, his first name.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

So they call him Fitz.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Right, I know it's Fitz, but like so Fitzgerald's Jet Fitzjet Fitzgerald Grant. Okay, because I can't I just say fitz now, because it's like you know, because he's just fitz, right?

SPEAKER_01 29:20

All right, Stan calls um or Ruby calls Stan, or Stan calls Ruby, one of the two, and he's gonna be like he's gonna be home. She goes, Can you pick up some lemon pepper? He goes, I'm gonna be home a little late. She goes, weren't you on like the lunch shift? She's like, Yeah, I gotta do some other things. She goes, Okay, what about occasion? He said, Yeah, that's cool. Pull back, his boss is in the back seat, and um he has Stan doing a job, and yeah, it's definitely some muscle job. I think it's the bitch better have my money job.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Yep, yeah, he's like, don't come out until you get it. And the the soundtrack is yacht rock. Meanwhile, car on or off yacht rock playlist. Random. What would your playlist be?

SPEAKER_01 30:13

I don't know. I carry B, probably. Oh god. I mean, that's my playlist going to work anyway. For the most part, I gotta get hyped. I like those Facebook reels where I'm listening to like real ratchet shit on the car ride, and I walk in on my heels and my dress, and like, good morning, everybody. No, that's me.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

Yeah, but they were gonna say, like, for me, it's more like you know, my playlist will go from one song will be like, you know, Wu Tang, and then the next song will be like The Supremes, and then the next song will be like Celine Dion, and then yeah, and then that little Teddy Swim, they got little some country in there.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

Yeah, I yeah, my my it depends what it's called Nations, it depends what station. If I'm listening to Pandora, I'm listening to my Cardi B radio. My Spotify, because I like Spotify with your your light songs, that my Spotify list is whoa.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

See, I uh well I don't use Spotify, but um I just like have a playlist for like my songs that I've downloaded.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

Oh no, I like mine and it just that goes from A through Z. It goes from the 60s to 70s to gangster rap to country to yeah. Meanwhile, at Bowling Bubbles, Agent Hot Mess stumbles upon that infamous letter that Lisa has been cursing Beth about since she wrote it. I haven't thought on this though. That's the end of this episode, and I need to hear Lisa's thoughts.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

Well in the episode, you see her looking at the picture, and we can see the writing on the back, but as far as the camera work goes, she never saw the writing on the back. But I wonder if even so like when Beth was writing the letter, we see Beth writing like from what I remember, we saw Beth writing and we hear her inner monologue. Did she actually write what she said? You know what I mean? Like I wonder if there's something different on the letter because on the picture as opposed to Right, because you know, and w whether whatever it says, like I just wonder if she was not as dumb as we were like, what the fuck are you doing? Like that is so I don't know. So that's what I was thinking. Well, I don't have anything else for this episode. Well, that's good because this episode's over. Alright, well, next episode. I don't know what it is, but it's something. And then there's another episode.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

And there's something else after that. Right. Yeah. Let's see where I'm going with this. I see, uh-huh. And then like 13 episodes more, it would be the end.

SPEAKER_00 33:29

Oh, okay. Well then visit assassinsips.com for all the ways. Don't drink and drive, drink responsibly. And until next time, I'm Lisa. And I'm Agnes. And we're out of here.

SPEAKER_01 33:42

See you later bye.