Jan. 6, 2020

LOST Walkabout

LOST Walkabout
LOST Walkabout
Sass N Sips
LOST Walkabout

"Locke... His name is John Locke" - Michael Dawson

Original episode air date 10/13/04

Walkabout is the 4th episode in the first season but is our 3rd episode.

In this Episode:

Are you ready for Viking burial premonitions, ninja knife skills, disrespectful boars, & bacon praise?
The focus is on John Locke so Agnes is happier than a pig in… well you know. She ponders the importance of socks, explains what TPS reports are, & Charlie's in a band.
Stay tuned for our next episode where we’ll talk about White Rabbit

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SPEAKER_01

What is it? Somebody's in there. Everyone in there's dead. Sawyer. Right behind you, Jackass.

SPEAKER_03

Welcome everyone to another episode of Assassin's Sips, where we will be discussing another episode of Lost in Order from the perspective of someone who has seen it and someone who has not.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I thought I jumped in.

SPEAKER_03

That's okay. I'm Lisa. And I'm Agnes. And welcome everyone to episode Four. Walk About. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, uh, okay, I gotta get back to the group things. I completely forgot that, um, what's my name?

SPEAKER_03

Alright, that's okay. If if we just kind of give it like a little pause, it makes it easier for me to cut stuff out.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, that works. Okay, great. Then kind of move things in and over. So we discussed um, instead of like how we're going to do the show, a quick subna synopsis, and then boom, we start yapping our mouse. Right?

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. This is on me, right?

SPEAKER_03

Because you feel um I can do the synopsis.

SPEAKER_00

I think you should do the synopsis. Okay. I think you're a synopsis kind of girl.

SPEAKER_03

Alright, well, I'm just kind of reading it off of uh Lost Pedia, so Oh, but that helps. So I'm cheating.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you know, use your resources.

SPEAKER_03

You know what? We forgot to talk about what we were drinking tonight.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03

What do you have?

SPEAKER_00

I am sipping awesome caffeine. It's straight coffee today.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, you're cheating. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I am. It's nasty out here. It's cold, it's snowing. I'm in bed. Yeah, I'm staying in but I'm staying in the house today.

SPEAKER_03

Alright. Well, I'm cheating too. I'm drinking lemon water. Also healthy.

SPEAKER_00

Good gut health.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you know, I had a lot of um hard seltzers yesterday, so Oh.

SPEAKER_00

So you know I had a weekend of jelly shots. So yeah. Good times are happy all.

SPEAKER_03

There you go. Alright. So Walkabout is the fourth episode of season one of Lost. As food supplies run low, John Locke emerges as the hunter after the survivors learn there are wild boars near camp. Meanwhile, the survivors realize that they must somehow get rid of the rotting bodies from the fuselage. The flashbacks in this episode depict Locke's plans to get to Australia and participate in a walkabout tour. When we open onto the episode, it's Locke, but it's like a flashback on the island.

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_00

It's him as he's waking up from the crash and seeing Madness and Mayhem and all that other fun stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Right. It takes place like at the time of the crash. In the flat? No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

I see you he opens his eyes and he's looking at his foot and his shoe, he's wiggling toes and socks and stuff, and I'm like, why are socks important? Like that was the next thing. So throughout the whole episode, I'm like, why is this dude's sock so important?

SPEAKER_03

But did you notice that the bottom of his shoe was completely clean?

SPEAKER_00

I did not notice that when I first watched it. Um, I watched the episode.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

And then I picked up again and watched the second time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, after you know, it seems so hard to miss.

SPEAKER_00

Then we took up the present time. Well, you know, most present time.

SPEAKER_03

Alright, so let's let's talk about his flashbacks, what we learn in the flashbacks. So we Okay, in the flashbacks, we see that he is working in some kind of office. He gets a phone call where they call him Colonel, and then he gets berated by his manager, Randy, for having a personal phone call at work. He's on his lunch break playing some kind of a board game. Um, I'm not sure what it is. Looks like maybe risk or Right, one of those something along those lines. And here comes Randy again laughing at him for playing a game and talking about his walkabout and saying, you know, that he can't do it.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And I like and as Locke said, his pissette supervisor. I was like, I love it. He's like one of those kids, and I say this, sorry, no offense to it, but he's like one of those kids that gets a low manager position and he thinks he's a CEO.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

unknown

God do I hate those people.

SPEAKER_00

Um, so yeah. But no, that's just my that's just my take on things.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. And then we we see a scene where he's laying in his bed talking to Helen.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, that kind of made me sad. He's working at his job. Obviously, it doesn't fulfill him. His one passion is mocked by people. His only companion is a f a phone sex operator. And I'm like, oh, so sad. Because you could tell that this guy has so much put like at this point, like, damn, he's like a decent guy. There's something, you know, no one should have to be just so take what you can give. I think any person should have to just settle.

SPEAKER_03

Period. Yeah. No, but it is sad because he obviously has some kind of feelings for her, and he bought her a ticket to Australia.

unknown

Oh wow, no.

SPEAKER_03

The joys of recording with children in the house. Sorry. Um I lost my train of thought. Okay. I'm good. He buys her a ticket to go to Australia with him, but she says that she can't meet customers and that if he stays on the phone any longer, she has to charge him another uh $89.95, I think it was.

unknown

Something like that.

SPEAKER_00

I think by that point I was like, oh Yeah. It is I was kinda sad for him.

SPEAKER_03

I was like, Yeah. So as we heard in the teaser clip in the beginning of the episode, there were more going through the fuselage. And that is what leads John to say that they can hunt for food now that the food situation is getting pretty bad. And so in this clip that we're about to play you, this is where everyone finds out about John's craving crazy knife skills.

SPEAKER_01

I found it in there. What about the rest of the food? There is no rest of the food, dude. We kinda ate it all.

SPEAKER_02

What?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, everybody, just calm down. We can find food! There are plenty of things on this island we can use for sustenance. Exactly. How are we gonna find a sustenance? We hunt. How'd you get that knife on the plane? Checked it. You either have very good aim or very bad aim, Mr. Locke. His name is Locke.

SPEAKER_03

So what do you think about the the knife throw into Sawyer's chair?

SPEAKER_00

So badass. Um, you know, you know what gets me going. And I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um I I love okay, you know I'm partial to Sawyer, but I love his face where he just sits down, like, whatever, and the knife just comes at his head and he's like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, and everyone's like something about the knife throwing and the weaponry. I'm like, yeah. Um, but I found it interesting. Everyone's looking at him like he's crazy when he's telling them about how vicious the boars are. And my first remember my first thought was the scene in Hannibal. Have you seen Hannibal?

SPEAKER_03

Um I don't think I have actually.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god. Okay, so long story short, um, there were wild boars being trained to kill a man by eating them. So they have that ability to literally kill a person. Um, so that's why I started Googling. Like, when was the like when were boars used to kill people? Like was the first time in history that this was documented.

SPEAKER_03

So this got you googling shit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Like was the the the Thomas Wright that for the first time in Hannibal? And lost, like, yeah, let's use boars.

SPEAKER_03

But so yeah, that's my um But it could make sense that there's boar on the island.

SPEAKER_00

There's a lot of things. I mean, there's a polar bear.

SPEAKER_03

Well, y true.

SPEAKER_00

And we have this whatever thing that killed the pilot the first episode, whatever thing that was.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, I got I got some trivia about that too.

SPEAKER_00

Ooh, trivia. Trivia. Back to his knife skills.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Let's talk about his cachet.

SPEAKER_03

I know. That was but alright, but that was such a badass scene when he's just like, Soyo's like, oh, so we're just gonna go uh with the one little knife into the magical forest, and he's like, no. And he lifts the blind, and everybody's eyes are just open really wide. Like, what? Who is this guy?

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Who is this dude?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know why everyone is so I don't know why those people rear with him, but he really I would be making friends with him from the get. And speaking of which, making friends, some of their decisions and their reluctance, as we'll see later on that as we progress in the sh of doing common sense things bothers me to no end.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so I want you to bring them up when you when you get to one.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if I could do that. You know me, I'm so timid.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, okay. But now, as a viewer, how did you feel when you saw that moment and you saw like you know, you go from these scenes where he's just this dude hitting an adding machine working on a computer behind a desk to this guy who has some crazy ninja knife skills?

SPEAKER_00

I think it's kinda indicative of most people, actually. A lot of people have jobs, not necessarily careers that they love. A lot of people that have their day life and then they have their real life or their second part of them. Um of course this is TV and things a little bit to the extreme. But I think that's indicative to most people. And and and I I could relate to it on some level.

SPEAKER_03

You got crazy ninja no skills?

SPEAKER_00

Totally. I'm I am uh secret agent ninja woman at the dock. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

No. And you just gave out your secret.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know. You don't know what my, you know, this you know who I am, Agnes Day Agnes. You don't know my my undercover for so long. Got it.

SPEAKER_03

You take off your glasses and you put on your cape.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_03

And nobody can recognize you.

SPEAKER_00

That being said, you know, it's kind of interesting you say that because I can see how a person can look totally different in a way, if you're not expecting it. Like you have a person, like, imagine a person, your posture changes, your attitude changes, your look changes, there's some glasses, your hair changes. Someone who doesn't want to see the truth, I can see how they can totally not see the opposite front of their face.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm babbling. The most, you know, um call-kent Superman thing.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Totally see it in a weird kind of way. Like if you think about it, because you look at yourself in the mirror and you're doing your makeup or your hair or whatever, and you find yourself making a weird face, or you know, moving your moving your jaw to do something, you look like a totally different person. Like you're like, doesn't look like me.

SPEAKER_03

Um it's true though. It is true.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And people, you know, is respond to body language as much as they do to something like your looking at your face. Um, a person who's has one type of straight up posture, an air of superiority or control. They're looked at differently as a person who seems timid. Claude can't. People don't you don't look at him. Really. So that's just me. Bat to walk about.

SPEAKER_03

Back on the beach, Michael asks Sun if she can look after Walt while he goes on the hike. Which is so ridiculous. I mean, it's like nothing bad about Sun, but there's plenty of people. He picks the one person who's not gonna understand what he says.

SPEAKER_00

Right. That bothered me. I looked at him like, really, dude? Really?

SPEAKER_03

Um Yeah, Kate Kate goes with them because she never misses an opportunity.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, she has uh remote, she has a second mission to accomplish. Kate.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Still kind of weary. I'm not weary. Um still I'm okay with Kate. Don't love her, don't hate her, just like meh. Let's see where this goes. I hope she gets more interesting as time goes on. But there's so much potential for this character.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And right now, like they touched upon it, but then you like then you they brought her back down to just indifference. So let's see.

SPEAKER_03

Shannon and Boone argue.

SPEAKER_00

And surprise, surprise.

SPEAKER_03

Boon, Boone tells Shannon that the ocean is not gonna take her gold card.

SPEAKER_00

I just think I mean, I still think he's just way too hard on her. And I granted there's I'm sure there's a history, but listen, you guys are stuck on a on a you guys are deserted on an island. I think now is the time to try like start from scratch and try to build something. Yeah, you guys need each other.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I just thought that that line was funny.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I don't like him. Well, well, I am I am team shiny on this. Like, I think there's potential for her to be to do I think there's something there's something new to her. And to be fair and the interest of transparency, I am the judgmental sister. But so I you really can't tell though, but yeah, I am the one. I am the blue, but that's weird, right? I feel I feel for Shannon.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think it's weird at all.

SPEAKER_00

I just want more for people. I don't do it because I think you're I don't you know, I want more because I know you've got more in you.

SPEAKER_03

Well then, but then she char she charms no. She cons Charlie Charms Shannon cons Charlie into catching a fish, and this was funny. She's like, Do you know how to fish? And he's like, Well, England's an island, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know what? It's funny you say charmed. It's like four years lip, she's a little charming conny thing. And I I like to say she's using her resources.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. But he thinks that she's gonna ask him if he was in a band, because that was yeah, I'm not about you. As you know, Charlie was in a band.

SPEAKER_00

Was he really?

SPEAKER_03

You don't say.

SPEAKER_00

They barely mention it, so you know, I can forget sometimes.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you know. Towards the end of the episode, Kate comes back with the broken antenna and gives it to Saeed and tells him that they will keep trying. Jack arrives and Kate reveals that Locke was right in the monster's path and probably did not make it. Because as we saw, Locke came face to face with the monster. Um, Jack once again sees the man in the suit and runs into the jungle with Kate at his heels, but instead of the figure, they find Locke who brings with him a dead boar. Oh, we forgot to mention that while they were in the jungle looking for the boar and Locke got knocked down, he calls Kate Helen and give gives her his famous line of uh what is it? Don't tell me what I can't do. Don't tell me what to do. Don't tell me what I can do. Tell me what to do. Don't tell me what I can't do. As the episode ends, um, it's sundown, Claire's reading off the names of the dead and just giving a memorial for all of them. They actually, in the beginning of the episode, they resolve to burn the bodies from the fuselage because they can't sort out everybody's gods, and they have to do something, otherwise they're gonna keep attracting the boar. So they make it a big a big fire at sundown, hoping that the fire will be seen to get them rescued. At sundown, Claire reads off the names of the dead, giving brief bits of trivial information she managed to glean from the documents in the wreckage. The only survivor not attending is Jack, who sits away from the service looking out at the sea. Michael appreciates Loc for hunting the boar and then asks Locke about the monster. But Locke says that he did not see anything. Looking towards the fire, he sees his wheelchair silhouetted against the flame. Because in the last flashback, we learned that Locke has been in a wheelchair for the past four years. So, overall, what did you think about this episode?

SPEAKER_00

So, the beginning episode when they were talking about what they're going to do with the bodies, one of the things that kind of like pissed me off was the fact that they were arguing about doing something in general. Like, obviously, something has to be done with the bodies. Like the boards are coming after these dead bodies in the hot sun, something needs to be done. And I found like the at first I felt like people arguing about the dead bodies, those are people. Well, yes. When I say just toss, like something has to be done. No one's saying, at this point in time, no one's saying how to be done, how it's going to be done rather, but something has to be done. So I'm looking at these people like, wait, what do you expect to like what do you expect? So leave them in there and indefinitely?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_00

That was kind of one of the things that like that first we have to do something with the bodies. But the human beings, duh, like you know, that like that pushback initially was like, well, like I get you on the you're stranded.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I have I have a few notes about that.

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

I'm glad they decided on something. And I found it interesting that they decided to fire. Um I thought of the Viking funerals. Because, you know, and some of it like that burning of the body isn't sacrilege. It's a, you know, it's a way of you know, it's not disrespectful. I kind of thought I kind of saw it like in my mind's eye, I'm like, oh it'd be nice if they can just make rafts and kind of just like send out the body's ocean. But that was just my my my own little mental picture of that.

SPEAKER_03

It's funny you mentioned that. I had I had a vision of that too.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It it's really funny you mentioned that. But on one hand, I agree with Said. It's like they're people and you don't know what religion they are or how or what their burial wishes were. But on the other hand, you don't have time for that. These are extenuating circumstances, you know, and at some point right.

SPEAKER_00

In a perfect world we wouldn't have crashed to either.

SPEAKER_03

There's that.

SPEAKER_00

So I get it. I get it, you don't really be disrespectful, but let's you could still Be respectful of uh as human beings, but the safety and the the safety of the masses left in this island.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and and what could be more disrespectful than having a boar eating away at your body or or rotting in the hot fuselage.

SPEAKER_00

And I think at this point, I don't even think it had m maybe it was being like a little jaded, but I don't think Sae's initial pushback, because he pushed back boom without even hearing anything.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I don't even think his pushback was about the dead people. I think he's I I I find his character becoming divisive and argumentative.

SPEAKER_03

Really? And I feel like he's been more level-headed.

SPEAKER_00

Until now. Like this is the this is the beginning of like, um what's going on?

SPEAKER_03

Got it.

SPEAKER_00

And I I don't know, maybe that's but this isn't a TV view watching fiction. So I could be a little designal.

SPEAKER_03

So last time I asked you about certain characters. So I want to do that again with you, but I'm just gonna modify it. I'm going to stick to three instead of five. I want to do this person's episode, which would be Locke. Up until now, how do you feel about Locke and have your feelings for him changed after seeing his episode?

SPEAKER_00

Um, I told you guys the very first episode, like Locke is the interesting one. Partly because Terry O'Quinn. Okay, I'm a fangirl. Hi, Terry. Um, but he's it's so funny. He's very interesting. He's an interesting guy. You can't say he isn't. And the scene he saw the creature or whatever it was, I don't know if you remember, but the way his face lit up, like like he sees something that no one else has seen. And I'm like, ooh, what does this mean? What does this mean? I can't wait to find out what this means. And watching future episodes, I still come back to that to that thought, like, hmm, is this the Easter egg? But yeah, he's still the man.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, and we had a K episode last time. So has your feelings have your feelings for her changed since her episode?

SPEAKER_00

Um, I um don't love her, don't hate her. I'm interested to find out what's like what happens with our character.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, and our next episode is gonna focus around Jack. So before seeing his episode, what are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_00

Um I see a little bit of martyrdom in him.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Um So they're the same from the last episode.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I see changes in him little by little, like facial they're very they're very they're very subtle, little nuances. His demeanor, his like he he feels I feel like he I feel like he feels he has the weight of these people on his shoulders.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And it started to show like in his body language.

SPEAKER_03

I agree. I agree with you. And just keep in mind that even though I've seen it, I'm I'm really trying my best to base my opinions off of what we're currently watching and not off of things that I know in the future.

SPEAKER_00

Well, lucky for you, I've gone to like with one extra show. What I like I'm trying to go a little I don't go as far as I could go because I'm like, nope, I can't color my opinion.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I only say not to watch ahead because it's hard for you to live in the moment if you've seen too much.

SPEAKER_00

True. Very true. But that's where you take copious amount of notes.

SPEAKER_03

True.

SPEAKER_00

And you jot down your thoughts on those notes, and then you're like, I'm I actually find a little bit interesting. I'm like, wow, my opinion's changed.

SPEAKER_03

Have you noticed have you noticed anything like that up to this point?

SPEAKER_00

And was I'm not sure if I understand.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so ideas or opinions that you've had about something or someone in the show, have you found that any of them have changed up to after seeing Walkabout or or up to that point?

SPEAKER_00

As of now, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I think they're pretty much so far, you know, on point. Haven't had any aha moments or have I said, oh, I was wrong. That's yet. But this is still this is still the infancy.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So they haven't changed their character, they haven't changed their um their their goals yet. The writers are still uh developing their characters.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Okay, so how about a little trivia?

unknown

Trivia?

SPEAKER_00

Woohoo! Let's go for it.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so before we end the episode, we'll do a little trivia. I'm not gonna read off anything that would ruin things for you though, okay? Copy that. Okay. After Randy confronts Locke about the TPS reports, Locke returns to work using his adding machine. As the receipt prints, the clicking sound of the monster can be heard. This makes sense because according to the producer's podcast, the monster sound was taken from a taxi receipt printer in a New York in a New York City taxi.

unknown

Okay, that's funny.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh. But if you remember in the episode where you first hear it and you hear them kind of talking about what was that sound, and I believe it was Rose who said it sounds so familiar, like something back home, and they ask her where she's from, and she's from the Bronx.

SPEAKER_00

That sounds about right. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Claire's pendant is the Chinese Mandarin symbol for love.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_03

Kate. Okay. Kate is a vegetarian.

SPEAKER_00

Good luck in that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. But in her flashback, she ate bacon, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Bacon's good.

SPEAKER_03

Bacon is good. Fans often mark this episode as the point in which most people get hooked to sh hooked by the show. This is usually called the walkabout effect.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Alright.

SPEAKER_00

I will let you know on future episodes. Make them no, I will let you know when I got hooked.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. This is the first episode to feature an on-island flashback.

SPEAKER_00

Is it really?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's what it says. Yeah. And this episode, this episode marks the first appearance of Billy Ray Gallion as Randy Nations. Um, I think. I think that's really it for anything interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so maybe I'm just, I don't know. I don't know. Crazy. But when they when the guy asked for the TPS reports, my first thought was toilet paper shit. Like it was like, it just seemed so crappy. Like the job is crappy, the boss is crappy, you want toilet paper reports. Like CPS, like it's just like you think it was just taking a shit. I don't know. You're like, I just I just find it kind of fitting that that was the name of the report. That he's so gum ho old I need to get done. Not 1230, not 1215, but noon. Yeah, so we're recording that loosely.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Randy Nations is a little bit of a dick, so. So I think that'll do it for this episode. I'm Lisa. And I'm Agnes. And this has been Sassin Sips. Please stay tuned next week for our next episode where we will discuss White Rabbit. In the meantime, we'd love to hear your feedback. Anything that you have to offer, comments, questions, you can find us at sassinsips at gmail.com. And we can also be found on Instagram and at patreon.com slash saspod if you would like to donate and help us cover our podcasting dues. Contact info will be in the show notes so you don't have to worry about spelling. Thank you as always so much for listening. And please don't forget to subscribe. And please, please don't forget to drink responsibly. Good night, everyone.