LOST Solitary

SPEAKER_05 0:05

Where is Alex? Where is Alex?

unknown 0:13

I don't know what to talk about.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

Where is Alex? Where is Alex? Oh any Alex.

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Welcome everyone to this episode of Sass and Sips, where every week we will be discussing and dissecting an episode of Lost in Order. We will do our best to avoid spoilers for those of you who'd like to watch along with us. Neither of us are experts, just fans who like to drink and dish, which will also explain why we still haven't figured out how the fuck to make the audio sound any better.

SPEAKER_03 1:12

I think it gives it character. That's what we will go with. That's our story and we're sticking to it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

We are your hosts. I'm Lisa.

SPEAKER_03 1:22

And I'm Agnes. I can't look at you right now because I just kind of want to laugh. I'm like looking everywhere, but okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

So this week's episode is solitary.

SPEAKER_03 1:34

Yes, and I gotta tell you, nothing about his story surprised me. I was like, okay, this is pretty much expected.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

What are you drinking? Stella Stella. Yes, and Stella is also laying down next to me.

SPEAKER_03 1:54

For those you don't know, that's the name of her dog.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

Yeah. But she's pretty knocked out, so she she might just be still for the rest of the episode.

SPEAKER_03 2:02

One could hope not. It'll be interesting.

SPEAKER_01 2:07

I'm gonna go through the synopsis and you can stop me whenever you hear something you want to chat about.

SPEAKER_03 2:14

Just jump in and interrupt you. I think I can manage that.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Try really hard, okay?

SPEAKER_03 2:19

I'll try.

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The episode starts off on the island and it's day 12. Further along the coastline than any other survivor has ever been, Said sits looking at his photograph of Nadia. He notices something out of the corner of his eye, and moving closer, discovers it's some kind of electrical cable. One end leads into the ocean, the other into the jungle. He decides to follow it into the jungle. At the main beach camp, Jack changes Sawyer's bandages amongst a barrage of insults. The con man comments about Kate being interested in him, prompting Jack to leave. He goes to Kate, who worries about Saeed, who has been gone for over two days. Jack reassures her saying Said is a trained soldier who is able to look after himself. The cable he follows soon leads to underground, and near it are a set of traps. Dodging the first one, Saeed is caught off guard by another, which pulls him upside down by a rope. Trapped for hours, Said prays for help, but it is not until night that he hears some kind of response in the jungle. He is cut down by an unknown figure and faints. Jack treats Sullivan for a rash, dubbing him a hypochondriac. Hurley thinks that everyone is too tense and they need something to help them unwind. Later, Saeed begins to come round to hear a voice asking, Where is Alex? in a variety of different languages. The stranger who had cut him down is revealed as a woman, and she shocks Saeed with electrical current, ordering him to reveal what he knows about Alex.

SPEAKER_03 3:58

And may I say the irony of this scene is not lost on me. I mean, he's over here being tortured. And look so you're like, how apropos? Okay, let's go on. I've written down two. Oh, did you?

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Let's look at us. Yes. Not just one mind. Like in the irony of the flashbacks, but the and then also the irony of the last episode.

SPEAKER_03 4:21

With Sawyer. Yeah. Yes. Well, you know, I to me it kind of went hand in hand because when he did one, it's kind of like you know what he like based on last week's episode, you knew that was his past, kinda. Like, so it was kind of like one and the same.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

Yeah. It's a lot of duality where usually the off-island story connects to the on island story either as sometimes but it could be like an opposite thing, or sometimes it could be an an a side. And in this case, it's he was the one.

SPEAKER_03 4:52

Because being in a plane crash and on a desert deserted island doesn't change who you are. It doesn't change your past, it doesn't change your character. It you know, you are who you are at the core. So life is gonna take you pretty much in very similar paths, regardless of your situation. Uh in this case, deserted island. So really none of it makes none of it's a big surprise if you think about it. It's kinda it should be expected.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

But there's something else. When he's in her underground shelter, that bitch got electricity.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

I have a lot of questions about her little thing as we go on throughout the episode. Okay. A whole bunch of little, like, really? Okay. Bad. Okay. But like, when did she get the I mean, I'm gonna assume that some of the stuff, like the generators and some of the stuff was brought up there doing like whatever testing or research they were doing. But when you get the what when you get like the my god, my brain shut down. Those who can't see me, I'm doing like charades with my hands. Like the fencing. Where do you get the iron fencing from? And when you get the the you know, like I'm like, okay, I'm gonna leave that alone to TV. That's TV logic. But yeah, just some other thing. Something like real But go ahead. Okay. You may commence.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Okay. In a flashback, Saeed tortures a man into admitting the truth about helping Shiite rebels in a terrorist attack. His superiors are so impressed by the way in which he works that they transfer him to the intelligence division. As his commanding officer and close friend talks with him, he notices a young woman being brought into the detention facility and seems to recognize her. On the island, Locke returns to the caves with Ethan, another survivor, after hunting for food. They found a variety of luggage items during their scout, and Hurley offers to look through them for anything useful. The commotion wakes up Walt, who asks Locke if he can hunt. Michael overhears and orders Walt back to bed. Just as Hurley discovers something in the bags, which puts a smile on his face. Back to Saeed, he pleads that he doesn't know who Alex is and explains about the plane crash. When he comments about the distress signal he picked up and how it was 16 years old, the French woman stops, asking if it had really been that long. However, she still believes Saeed to be lying, saying that she knows what he is. The next morning, Saeed looks around to realize that he is in some sort of dugout tent. He sees a jacket with the name Rousseau on it, the French woman's name. She talks about her distress signal and how they now control it. She found his name on the envelope he carries with Nadia's photo inside. She refuses to believe his story, asking why, if there were so many, he would leave everyone for isolation. He says it is because of something he did, and when asked about Nadia, he says that she is dead. Rousseau believes him. In a flashback, Said is later ordered to torture the same woman, who turns out to be Nadia. His group believes she was involved in a bombing plot. As Saeed introduces himself, Nadia remembers him from her childhood. The two talk about their past and how Nadia became a traitor to her nation. Nadia refuses to cooperate, showing her wounds from past interrogations. She tells Saeed to do his work, completely indifferent to what will happen to her. At the caves, Michael and Jack make plans to split the drinking water to make a shower facility. Their discussion is interrupted by Charlie, who takes them to see Hurley. Hurley has built a golf course in order to help everyone have some fun in their life on the island.

SPEAKER_03 8:43

Which I think was really necessary. I know I sound like I'm really like focused on this, focused on less shelter, focused on like realistic stuff. But we're human. We really need to like let loose and be like and feel like humans at some point in time. And back to the interrogation of saying what's up with all the pronouns? Whose name? What's in it? What's going on? Who, what, where, why? What did they catch? Like, I finally get some island story, and they're leaving me like hanging on. I'm like, stop with the pronoun. I need some details. But thank you for finally giving me some island stories. Shut up with that look on your face because you're looking like I sold you. I sold you. I'm still not convinced though. I'm still not in love.

SPEAKER_00 9:34

Welcome. So the first and hopefully last. Island open. What? Two holes for now. Three parts. No waiting. Really? A golf course? Rich idiots play drop of islands all the time the wax falls around. All the stuff we gotta deal with max. This is what you've been wasting your time on? Dude, listen, our lives are stuck. Everyone's nerves are stretched to the max. I mean, we're lost on an island running from boars and monsters to freaking polar bears. Polar bears. You didn't hear about the polar bears? Look, all I'm saying is if we're stuck here, then just surviving's not gonna cut it. We need some kind of relief, you know? We need some way that we can, you know, have fun. That's right, fun. Or else we're just gonna go crazy waiting for the next bad thing to happen.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

I love when Hurley is like, welcome everyone to the first and hopefully only island open. And they're all just like, This is what you've been wasting your time on. And they're berating him for doing that. And he's like, dude, millionaires spend money to come out to places like this.

SPEAKER_03 10:53

Right?

SPEAKER_01 10:54

He's like, We gotta just make the best of it.

SPEAKER_03 10:57

Because if you're going let's be let's be realistic here. And the event that they're stuck there for a long, long time. Now mind mind you, I don't know that it's like a hundred seasons, but you guys have to be like, you have to start building a life. You know, you have to start building your norms, and that sometimes that's a relief. That's how that's paying golf, sometimes that's whatever it is. Do you do you understand why Shanna is so just like she's like the only one not stressed? Because she's like, what are you gonna do? Stressing and being argumentative and being divisive is not gonna change the situation. She's sunbathing and reading her book.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

I get it. I don't disagree. But I'm thinking that maybe, you know, 17 minutes after the plane crash might not be the best time for a pedicure. I'm just saying. Like Well I say she I mean, yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 11:55

Yeah, well, I meant more like day twelve, but yes.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Like even the next day, you're like, alright, no one came. Maybe we should just make sure we have some food for the day, and then I'll do the pedicure.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

I yeah, I didn't you know I said I have hope for Shannon. I didn't say she you know, I didn't say she was a hundred percent there, but no one's a hundred percent there.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

No, that's for sure. Rousseau shows Said a music box, a symbol of love and comfort to her from her love Robert. However, the music box has been broken for many years. Said says that he might be able to fix it if his hands are freed, but Rousseau seems to ignore him, sending a rust sanding a rusted syringe. She then injects him. Jack and Michael give in to Hurley's infectious enthusiasm playing a round of golf. The survivor Jack previously treated arrives, forgetting all about his ailments with the prospect of playing the sport. Sullivan with his hives and him being a high.

SPEAKER_03 13:22

So I'm actually gonna go back a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 13:25

I shouldn't go on back a lot because I kind of like missed my segue. The scene where Michael is like doing his drawing for his water plan. And then Walt is like, hey, can I go to the beach? And Michael's like, no. So Walt was like, well, I'm bored. And then his Michael's gonna go back and say, Well, you need to find me to do. And I'm looking like he just did. Dude. Um, like up to this point, I'm trying to figure out what's bugging me about. Like, I know a lot of bugging me about Michael. I put my fingers on it. I was a nerve by his relationship. I was like, you know what? He has to learn to be a father. That's one. Hmm. I personally have a little me confidence. He's a little selfish in that way. Never mind that. He has to learn to be a father. He's not, I don't think he has it in him to focus with someone else but himself. He has to learn to be a father with that deficiency after the child's mother died. After he had a plane crash. And this whole situation, I think this episode, it hit it the light bulb went off for me. I'm like, oh. Like Locke. Locke obviously has a natural relationship with the kid. Like they bonded easily. Locke didn't have any children that we know of at the disease. He didn't have much of a family that we know of as of this point, but he still had that natural affinity to get to know the kid. So Michael, I think, has a long role ahead of him of growing up himself. Like Walt is more of an adult in that sense that he is. That's what buzzed me about Michael.

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Said regains consciousness and Rousseau apologizes for using the sedative. She moved him so he could fix the box. He agrees to work on it in exchange for her name. Danielle tells Saeed about how her science team experienced malfunctions during a storm in the Pacific. Her ship was breached and crashed, and her team made camp on the island temporarily. After two months, something occurred causing Rousseau to make the distress signal, which stated that it had killed them all. Danielle explains that the others were the carriers, and that though she had never met them, they whisper in the jungle, and Sae doesn't believe her. He looks at her like with the most pity in his eyes, and she is like, You think I'm insane? And he's like, I think you've been alone too long.

SPEAKER_03 16:08

But based on what they've seen that far, why is that so far-fetched? Polar bears. Like a weird monster sounds in the junk. Like, why that's so far-fetched, dude?

SPEAKER_01 16:19

And I mean, in fairness, if she's been alone for 16 years, I could understand why you would think that she's a little bit crazy.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

I get that, but based on what I've seen if it was me on that island, based on what I've seen thus far in 12 days, I'm like, Lord, it could be it really could be anything. Cause this she shit here is getting real. Yeah. But that's just my opinion. What do I know? I'm just a professional TV watcher.

unknown 16:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

We're gonna go back to a flashback. Said visits Nadia in her cell weeks later, giving her food. He wants her to talk without hurting her, giving her the opportunity to implicate others in order to save herself. Nadia says that cooperating with mean their visits would be cut short, and when Said says that their interactions were in a game, she replies, Yet you keep playing it, pretending to be something I know you're not. News spreads of the golf course, and many are surprised to hear that the serious doctor is amongst the players. Sawyer jokes to Kate about it and passes up the possibility of accompanying her to the course. To Danielle's delight, Said manages to fix the music box, but as soon as he asks if he may go, the music stops. She tells him she needs him and he is not safe. Just then, a roaring sound is heard outside. She heads out after it, despite Saeed's warning that it might be the monster. There's no such things as monsters, says Rousseau as she leaves. Said manages to break free from his chains, and after grabbing a gun as well as copies of maps and diagrams, he makes his escape. Back to a flashback, Saeed's commanding officer tells him that Nadia is to be executed. After over a month of interrogation, she still hasn't talked, and an example has to be made. Saeed goes to her cell and gives her a bag to put over her head. Back on the island, Kate and Jack mildly flirt as they talk about how the golf course is making everyone feel safe. Walt arrives, noting that Michael had left him at the caves alone. Michael offers to let Walt have a go, but when it is his turn, he disregards his son. Yo, he like literally runs away from his son.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

Did I tell you, like, he he's he's not a grown-up. He like, dude, you forgot your kid. Like you know your kid was like, I'm old, I want something to do. And then you're like, okay, I'm gonna go play golf. Like I hope it gets better. I hope he learns to be a grown-up and be a father throughout this process. Uh don't tell me anything.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

I wasn't planning on it. She said that so matter-of factly.

SPEAKER_03 19:06

I kinda like that.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

So that's there.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

Alright. In the last flashback, as Saeed leads her out, he reveals that he has set up an escape route for her. Nadia pleads him to join her, but desertion will mean death to his family. She quickly writes a message on a photograph of herself, but they are interrupted by Saeed's friend. To save his love, Saeed is forced to shoot him as he shouts for the guards, and then shoots himself in the leg to avoid suspicion. As Nadia runs, Saeed looks at the message written in Arabic on the back of the photo. On the island, Saeed and Rousseau cross paths as Saeed is trying to escape. They point their guns at each other, and Saeed pulls the trigger. To his surprise, however, he finds that the firing pin has been removed. Danielle says that Robert never noticed it either before she shot and killed him. Said can't believe that she would shoot someone she loved, but Rousseau claims he was sick, just like the rest of her group. She could not afford to let whatever hurt them escape the island if rescue would come, and so seemingly killed everyone close to her. She tells Saeed that she can't let him leave. After years of solitude, she doesn't want to be alone. Saeed decides to tell Rousseau what was written on the back of the photograph of Nadia. You will find me in the next life, if not in this one. He knows what it was like to hold on to someone, but the more he held on, the more isolated he himself felt. He believes that the only way off the island is with his friends' help, and so he needs to return to them. He asks if she wants to join him, but Danielle declines. Before she leaves, she advises Said to watch his people very closely. Saeed shouts after her, Who was Alex? She answers that Alex was her child.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

Those guns look older than 16 years old. Well they might be and then Then I'm talking about like let's talk about significantly older than 16 years. So how long have they had those weapons? And then two, you still have bullets in your gun 16, like you still have ammunition 16 years later? I'm sure some of that was like killing and Buddhist stuff. Or them or they or it or whatever. But that's nothing that kind of bothered me about TV logic. I think I'm done with my insane expectation of real life on TV now.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

Jack prepares to capitalize on Charlie's failure and win the game. As the other survivors begin to bet commodities on the outcome. Sawyer arrives, offering some bounty of his own, causing everyone to be on edge. The group begins to accept him, however, meeting his bets. As Saeed tracks back to the jungle, the wind shifts. The sound of the monsters briefly heard, and he begins to hear whispers. And that's where the episode ends.

SPEAKER_03 22:04

Good for you. No, she wasn't crazy.

SPEAKER_01 22:10

Anything stands out that you want to talk about first to you. This there's so much in this episode. So much.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

I think I I think I have the I made my little point to what my little interruptions other than That I you know, whatchamacallit Michael bugs the hell out of me. Like he learned learned some valuable lesson about interrogation and irony and karma.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

Um damn girl, one thing at a time. What? One thing at a time. Oh, I kind of ran through like um I think I have all my little fun stuff.

SPEAKER_03 22:49

Alright, so let's go back to Michael.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

So Michael and Walt have had a strained relationship the whole time. Correct. Okay. Walt tends to gravitate towards Locke and Michael hates it. Right. But it's like you said, Walt just has a connection with him.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

And I think um it goes back to Michael not being mature enough to be a father at this point. He expects I think he expects it to be like that of a sonbond when there wasn't one to begin with, and he's supposed to be automatic without even trying. And that's actually shown throughout the series thus far. He really doesn't pay much mind to him. But he's supposed to look at him as a father. Like you haven't been in my life. You don't you haven't really instilled in me a reason to look at you as a father figure. Yeah. And not that he doesn't respect him, but he doesn't seem as a father figure. And he kinda like, I don't kinda blame him. I don't feel I wasn't as a father figure.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

And at the end when he asked um he asked Locke if he could show him, and Locke is like, Does your father know you're here? And he didn't even care, but he gave him the knife, and Walt was like, like his eyes lit up when he got that knife in his hand. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 24:17

But he lights up like at the wonder of Locke from the get. He feels about Locke the way I feel about Terry or Quinn. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Okay, what was the next thing you were saying?

SPEAKER_03 24:36

Like I was supposed to remember the words that come out of my own mouth. Please. Um oh yeah. Um Saeed learned Saeed Saeed's lesson in calm winarium. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

He tortured Sawyer and then he got tortured. Instant car.

SPEAKER_03 24:52

Yeah, he built his cu he put his career on that. You know, so this cook, this is looks like I was like, haha.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

I mean, and he shot even in the flashbacks, he shot himself for her. That's some shit.

SPEAKER_03 25:07

I felt do I think he's evil? Absolutely not. I don't think he's a um he's not a sadist, he's not evil, he's not malicious. I don't think that at all. That being said, sometimes the people do bad things for whatever reason. And it comes to carback, you know. But yeah, that's just me. And this character. Just so everyone knows I'm just basically on a TV character. And it's my opinion of this character.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

At the end of each episode, it kind of focuses on one character and then you get their story next week. Have you noticed that? But this episode doesn't do that. It it ends on Saeed hearing the whispers. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 25:56

Do you think that's So I think that's it that seems like going into that logic and that pattern, I think it's gonna give you more it's gonna go into the story of the island. But that's just me. Eventually, we should you know, but that's just me guesstimating.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

Do you think what he was hearing is accurate, or he was it was like a mind fuck because of what she told him.

SPEAKER_03 26:20

I think it's possible for anything, but it's quite obvious this island has has secrets and things are going on, so it might be a combination of both. But I think this, you know, it's hello, polar bear village, you know. So you can't put anything past this island, so but I think he might assume it's a mindfuck, but I think there's something else going on because this show doesn't stay on for a hundred years. If it isn't, if it's just a mindfuck. So it better be something else, because that's it's really anticlimatic. I'm just saying. As I'm sipping my Stella.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

Yeah. Siptime. Alright. So how about one of the biggest themes is that we were introduced to three new characters. Danielle? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

The guy with the the the the the rash.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

Sullivan.

SPEAKER_03 27:20

That's his name? Okay, Sullivan, if you say so.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Yeah, the hypochondriac. And who else? And Locke had a new hunting partner, Ethan. Remember, he was like, Oh, we were gonna go hunt at night, and Ethan is like, Oh, it's the best time. We're gonna catch rodents. Yes, okay, so three new characters. Three new characters. Said finds the cable, and that's what makes him head into the jungle. You have any thoughts on that cable?

SPEAKER_03 27:45

Well, I I mean, she's been there for sixteen years. I'm sure she has lots of ways to survive. I don't know if that cable was a way to get back. I mean, who knows? Leading to some kind of power source. I'm sure that has much it has um value to her survival of some sort. I didn't think much further into that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

When Rousseau is talking to Saeed, she mentions the others and the sickness. Any thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_03 28:21

I think initially your first thought would be like some kind of virus, bacteria, or something. You know, you live in the island on the island, it could be something of that nature. Then you're like, but wait, this is lost. So this can't be something that basic. Um I told you before, it kind of bugged me. Who's they? What's it? What did they catch? What's what? I want to know what's going on. Is it some some kind of tropical zombie apocalypse? I don't know. And why did she catch it? Did she kill me? Did she kill people that they got sick in time for her not getting sick? But yeah, but yeah. Like I said, you you got me for one more episode. This is an episode by episode basis.

unknown 29:05

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

But didn't I tell you that this is where it was gonna start to turn around?

SPEAKER_03 29:11

Yes, you did.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

All right, hang in there with me.

SPEAKER_03 29:15

Okay, because I need a complete 180 to keep me going. Right now, you gave me like an extra like 30 degrees. So I'm I'm working. I'm getting, you know. Fine.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Um how about and I think this is the last one that I have, um, as far as some themes. In Sawyer's episode, we see that he held on to his letter as a means of holding on to his past, and it represented something. And in this episode, Saeed is holding on to the picture of Nadia, and it's representing his past.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

And I thought it was quite telling that he left it there when he made his escape. So I was like, interesting, Mr.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

Man. Very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

I'm not gonna give you much more information because I I I don't like spoilers, so I don't want to spoil shit for you, but I will say that this is going to be something that will come up again. The whole thing of holding on to something in the past. It even goes back to the whole tabula rasa theme about starting over, and maybe this was Saeed's way. You know, he held on to that picture believing that Nadia was dead because of something that he did, and like you said, he left it. Maybe that's his way of letting letting himself off of the hook.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

Very interesting. Very, very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

Now, let's be honest. I know what happened, so I could just be talking out my ass right now to throw you off. You would never know.

SPEAKER_03 30:49

You know why I never know? Because I'm not gonna remember this by next week. So there. Fine. Fine. Uh I I got holes in my brain, so you know.

SPEAKER_01 31:08

Fine, blame the holes on your brain. You want to do trivia or b characters? Trivia, yeah, trivia, trivia, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

I'm fine with you.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Uh during the scene where Jack treats Sullivan for his rash, Shannon can be heard in the background saying, Ew, get him out of there. He's drinking our water. This dialogue is from a deleted scene of this episode where Shannon comes across Vincent drinking from the main water supply. Shannon yells at Walt for letting the dog drink from the water and is then confronted by Michael for yelling at his son. Curly tells Shannon that dogs' mouths are in fact cleaner than humans. Shannon defeated Storms off.

SPEAKER_03 31:50

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:52

I didn't hear okay. I I I did hear it, but I mean you can hear it. It's not it's not um hard to hear. I just I didn't know it was from a deleted scene. I just assumed, oh, it's Shannon, so she's just whining about something.

SPEAKER_03 32:06

I maybe that maybe that's why I didn't click, so I don't remember I don't remember hearing it.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

The name The Others is first used in this episode by Rousseau. And this is the first episode in which we hear whispering in the jungle.

SPEAKER_03 32:23

I have a feeling there's gonna be a lot of first in these episodes coming up, but okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Yeah. Um, Danielle asks Said where Alex is when he is semi-conscious. She speaks at least six different languages English, German, Spanish, Italian, French, and Russian. Smart bitch.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

Probably one of the reasons she survived for 16 years.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

Let's do characters. So that's this episode was Saeed. So let's do Saeed. If you insist. He's hot. I do him. Oh wait, did I say that again? Oh, a telling. So tell.

SPEAKER_03 33:07

I concur. He's okay. And I have a biased opinion because he looks like some from my past. So um obviously I would do him in theory, but now I don't want to because of that. So yeah. I don't I don't have a very I have a very complex feelings towards him.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Alright, so let's talk about Said. Shall we talk? Shall we? So your thoughts on Said after seeing his episode and some of his backstory.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

Nothing more so than I've already thought. Like he's no surprise. His his character was complete. Like, yeah, I expected that. As you guys can tell, my opinions of these characters are more like either indifference or annoyance. Everyone, except for Locke. I love Locke. But I'm in I'm indifferent, so that's good. No, I like Locke. I like Walt. I like Vincent. And I have hope for Shannon. I I think she has the potential. Everyone else is either indifferent or annoyance. Okay. I'm a hard TV viewer to have to please.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

So I mean, I don't know if if I should even bother bringing up any more characters because you're gonna be like, well But let's hey, let's live dangerously. How about Claire? Since her episode is next.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

Okay. So I find her she's a little Pollyanna-ish. And I have a feeling her backstory is gonna be really anti-Pollyanna-ish. If that makes sense. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 34:50

Of course it makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

It makes sense, right? In a in a weird Agnes kind of way. I know that she's okay. I like her. She's a she's cute. I'm not annoyed. And I'm not unhappy to hear her see her on this other shelf. But I find it interesting that she's not on there much. She makes like a lot of considering the other characters, she makes a lot of it feels like guest star appearances thus far. So we don't have I don't really haven't had a chance to she hasn't had a chance to annoy me.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

Let's do a third. We were introduced to a couple of new actually three new characters this week. And we spent a fair amount of time with Rousseau. Right. So let's hear your thoughts on her.

SPEAKER_03 35:35

Okay. You keep making you you still you want my thoughts. I don't get thoughts on people until I get look know them a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 35:42

I know, but that's why this part is fun. I mean, look, we got three new characters. We got Rousseau, uh Sullivan, and Ethan. Well, you know, I'll be back. Sullivan was nothing but a hypochondriac, and Ethan didn't even register to you. So let's do Rousseau. Right. I'm like, Ethan, who, what? Exactly. So let's just do Rousseau.

SPEAKER_03 36:01

Barring the fact that she's been alone for 16 years, she has a lot to tell. And I would want to just pick her brain, but she obviously has some kind of like, you know, issues with trusting people because of them and others and they. So I get it. But I don't think she should like I don't know why anyone would dismiss her so out of hand, considering that she knows whatever she knows or doesn't know is a hella lot more than what you know. I think there's a little bit of misogyny in that part. Maybe just just me. I just wonder if Danielle was a Daniel and she would have been dismissed so quickly.

unknown 36:44

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 36:44

Maybe I mean just too much into it. No, I think. It's not the eye rolling listener. I know that I can see I can feel the listeners rolling their eyes right now.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

If you're rolling your eyes right now, please email us at sassin6 at gmail.com and tell us why.

SPEAKER_03 37:03

Oh, call and leave us a message. And we will play it on the next episode.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

Oh my god. If they're really good, yeah, we'll play 'em. Yeah, no, I mean, if you guys are listening and you disagree, please tell us. We'd love to hear why and your thoughts. There's so many different takes on everything. Everybody has a different perspective, and that's the beauty of it. You know, we can all share our own reasons. Especially it's fictional. There's no wrong answer. And let's face it, if you're out there listening to our reasons, let us listen to yours.

SPEAKER_03 37:36

What do you think about that whole interaction with Danielle and our little interrogator?

SPEAKER_01 37:42

Her her focus at the beginning was where's Alex? And then I it seems like when Sae finally was like, I don't know who he is, she finally started to believe him. And she let her guard down a little bit. She talked to him, she caressed him, like she seemed to be very grateful to have some kind of human interaction because clearly it's been a long time. And then when they had the standoff with the rifles, and he he pulled the trigger, he shot at her. He didn't know that the firing pin was gone, but he shot at her, and she just kind of looked at him like Robert didn't realize either. And Said is like, I'm fucked right now.

SPEAKER_03 38:26

Okay, so a couple things are asking. Okay, so at the end, I think just now it hit me when you were talking about Alex and stuff. I was like, where is Alex? You know, at the beginning you're like, Where's Alex? And you're like, okay, yeah, Alex, there's something with the Alex. And then you forget about it. I completely forgot about it. And then when he asked who Alex was, you said her child. No, she didn't say son or daughter, she just said child. So something about that seems a little wonky to me. Not wonky, but it was really telling and not stuff. And um then I'm like, but wait, where is Alex? And what happened to Alex? There's more questions. And then, dude, you shot her. Well, you shot at her. You want to kill this woman. That's like a wealth of information. Are you out of your freaking mind, dude?

SPEAKER_01 39:12

I mean, on one hand, if he was if he was worried for his own safety that she was gonna shoot him, I get it. Maybe it wasn't great. Like, maybe I could have just shot her in the foot or something, you know?

SPEAKER_03 39:24

He went like head-on chest shot.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

Like he was all he didn't give a f no. But then it says a lot about her that you know, he was like at the end, he was like, you know what? Fuck it. Like, yeah. He's like, but you know what? I'm not sick, I'm fine, and I give up. He threw the gun and she could have shot him dead, and she didn't.

SPEAKER_03 39:46

Because she has more sense than he does.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

And see, her her warning was to watch your people closely. That was her only warning. And we have no idea why, no idea where Alex is, what happened to Alex.

SPEAKER_03 40:00

Well, obviously it's it's based on what they caught or whatever it was that made them all die, or whatever. Obviously, I think because of I don't know, but yeah. Well, like there's gonna be some changes. Shit, shit's about to get real, watch your peep, it's about to go down on the island.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

Yeah. And I also feel like, I mean, let's let's be real, they try to make her seem kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_03 40:23

Well, yeah, I think that I think they had just the right amount of insanity considering she's been alone for 16 years on the island, battling them and they and whatever. Because I think it was just the right amount of insanity that was logical.

SPEAKER_01 40:39

But could that leave a person I mean, look, lost is wonderful at misdirection. Are you dancing?

SPEAKER_03 40:47

I am because I'm like thinking. So wait, those who think we're a little crazier on this episode is because we're trying a new way of recording and we're actually Skype video each other. Yeah. It's fun like this. It's weird. I'm trying to I'm trying not to look at you so I won't make funny faces and laugh, but you know.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

So guess what would you say? The misdirection. Uh what was I saying? Loss is really good about misdirection, whether it's a character, a scene, a theme, or whatever. So that's all I'm gonna say. Wait, I thought there was gonna be like a question to that. I know, but but then I was thinking that I might say too much and give you like spoilers.

SPEAKER_03 41:40

And I don't wanna poop.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

I don't wanna do that.

SPEAKER_03 41:43

Fine. Start off with the question and then pull it back.

SPEAKER_01 41:46

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 41:47

You're such a tease. I like that about you.

SPEAKER_01 41:52

That's what they all say. So, anything else before we close this out?

SPEAKER_03 41:59

No. I think that's it. You got a lot of my non-opinion opinions.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

Um You know what? Get back in the closet. Fine, just bring me my food. Stay tuned next week for the next episode where we will discuss raised by another. She's Agnes. And she's Lisa. And this has been Sass and Sips. If you'd like to support this show.

SPEAKER_03 42:29

Will you sip and sass? Yes. No, we sip and sass.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

Will you sip and sass with us? Please. It it'll probably make us sound better.

SPEAKER_05 42:46

Should we do that again? No.

SPEAKER_03 42:51

The look on your face was the funniest. He's like, no, I'm just done.

SPEAKER_01 42:57

Why try to pretend? Why pretend? We could do better. Alright. If you'd like to support this show, we can be found at patreon.com slash SASPO. No donation is too small. If you'd like to connect with us, we can be found on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter as far as social media goes. And we also have a phone number and an email address where you can connect with us, send us messages.

SPEAKER_03 43:27

I told you you're not drunk enough for this podcast, Lisa.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

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SPEAKER_03 44:07

Or yet another episode of I'm fan ramblings.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

So also, um, if you would like to support us, but don't want to do it financially, uh, you could rate, review, and subscribe to the show, and that would help us also. So please don't forget to do that. And please, as always, don't forget to drink responsibly. Until next time, I'm Lisa. And I'm Agnes. And we are out of here.

SPEAKER_03 44:49

I think the best thing for you to do is stay in front of your lamp so I can leave see you. It's weird not to see you. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

How's that? I can delete that. I had the blackout curtains. I was being higher.

SPEAKER_03 45:05

Okay. Oh, move this way a little bit. No, no, this way. Come forward. Yeah, just block the light from the lamp. Like leave it. I think you can leave it. Oh, that's perfect. Yay, I can see you.

SPEAKER_01 45:23

There's like a flock of geese flying by.

SPEAKER_03 45:26

Yeah, you're easily distracted.

SPEAKER_01 45:30

Because all I feel is them honking. So I know we've been we've been cutting it down to just like whatever whoever this person's episode was and then in the next one. But since there was a n well, I mean, there were a few new episodes n new characters. That was so sloppy. We won't stop from scratch.