LOST Some Like It Hoth
"If you needed your son to know that you loved him, you should've told him when he was still alive." - Miles Straume
In this episode: Ann Arbor is like a corner square, the plight of motherhood, & Hank from stuff (edit: not actually Hank on OC, lisa confused the undercover name lol)
In other news, we don't know how this episode is not 6 hours long lol
Original episode air date 04/15/2009
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Hi, and welcome to today's episode of Sassin Sips. Today we are going to talk about season five, episode 13 of Lost. Some Like It Hoth. I'm Lisa. And I'm Agnes. And I am sipping on just lemonade with a little vodka in it.
SPEAKER_02Vacca.
SPEAKER_00Keeping it a little simple. I'm still a little, you know, immobile. But yeah. At least you're in bed.
SPEAKER_02I just drinking. So, you know, there's no acting happen.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, until I have to hop my way over to the bathroom.
SPEAKER_02Bathroom. Good point. Like it's a spin on the Sassa Sips drink. Yeah. I'm not big into raspberry, so I really well. If you could do a pink lemonade, because pink lemonade is just food covering, right?
SPEAKER_00It is, but it tastes different somehow. It does. I don't know why it does or how it does, but it does.
SPEAKER_02But it does. That red 42 or whatever die that they use. I don't even know if I get the right number or not. We gotta think of a name for out for my Sassin Simps drink. I don't know, like a name. So it's just saying the Sassin Simps drink. I don't know, we'll think of something. While I'm drunk, we'll probably come up with it. Okay. Yeah. So I'm a little under the weather. So I have my little tea. But it has a little in it. So there you go.
SPEAKER_00There you go. Soothe the throat and knock out the germs. Alcohol kills germs. Exactly. There you go. Science. So since the last time we met, I don't know if anyone cares. Or whatever. My broken ankle saga. I have since had a follow-up. Now that splint cast is off. I'm still in a boot. Stitches came out. Still can't walk on it. I did get to see a picture of the inside of my leg. Doing surgery. Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he took photos while he was operating. So he showed me, like, oh, that's and that's your bone, and that's this. And and Agnes is like, that's so cool. You didn't even need a serial killer to see what the inside of your body looked like.
SPEAKER_02I have super jelly.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. He was like, uh, you're not squeaking shawty. I was like, nope. He was like, okay, here you go. I was like, I should have, I gotta, I gotta ask him, like, could you send me that picture?
SPEAKER_02I think you should be able to. I mean, it's a medical document, and considering like you have access to your medical records. It's my leg. Your leg, your medical records. Like, I don't care that you have it. Can I just look at it? I mean, people can like just depending on what they get removed, they're allowed to take it home with them. So I'm sure you can get a picture. Right. Um, I'm just, you know, can I just screenshot your phone even? Like, but anyway. I think we could do that. But back to my serial killer thing. Um, can you tell? One, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person that had that same thought when you just mentioned the leg being cut over. Because we are a generation, I don't know, women. Gen X women are all about like true crimes and all that other stuff. So we're all thinking the same thing, I'm pretty sure. I don't know why people keep fucking with us. Like Gen X women, like Discovery ID, and then we and then we go to sleep very well. Like, why do you keep fucking with us people? I don't understand.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, leave us alone. That's just one of those questions that if only we knew the answer, I think we would have world peace.
SPEAKER_02Right. Like, why do you guys keep fucking with Gen X women and don't expect anything to happen? Do you mean bodies would never be found if we weren't so you know, cool, calm, and collected most of the time?
SPEAKER_00Uh impulse to that right up there with the Tootsie Roll pop.
SPEAKER_02So the funny thing is, I know what you're talking about, but I saw doing the Tootsie Roll like underneath, like it's not the butterfly, it's the Tootsie Roll.
SPEAKER_00Do you have any hot takes for this episode?
SPEAKER_02I'm a little disappointed in myself. Actually, not a lot disappointed in myself. I bet. So he's with his mom, and she goes, You'll never find him. I'm like, oh, the island. Oh, fuck the doctor. God damn it, how did I not see this? And it's like all like in a matter of like 1.2 seconds, yeah. Thoughts. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with me? It was, I mean, not to stereotype, but it was kind of obvious.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's it's obvious, especially in hindsight, because you're then you're like, oh, obviously that's his reason. Oh, he's, you know, and you're seeing them together, and you're like, okay, there's like one Asian guy already on the island. But it kind of clicks.
SPEAKER_02And then I was just like, okay, to be fair though, like we didn't see much of Miles. Like, he's not much like in your face. So I kind of forgot about him. Yeah. Not that forget about it, but he's just so I kind of I think if he had more active scenes thus far, I think it would have clicked eventually. I think it would have clicked sooner than when his mother was on her deathbed. That's fair. Okay, I feel a little bit better. Thanks.
SPEAKER_00Okay, thanks, mom. We're gonna go back to flashbacks. March 16th, 1985. A woman, Lara, is looking at an apartment with the landlord and her young son Miles. When questioned about her circumstances, she tells the landlord that her husband is out of the picture. The landlord first objects to Miles because you know he's a kid and people hate kids. But Lara's like, nah, he's a quiet boy. She gives him a quarter and then he immediately finds a dead body. That's some part party trick.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, right?
SPEAKER_02Give me a quarter, I'll just I'll disappear on you. I'm fine.
SPEAKER_00A quarter? You can't like you can't buy anything with that except like a shopping cart at Aldi's.
SPEAKER_02The other give it back.
SPEAKER_00Well, only if you want your quarter back.
SPEAKER_02You imagine we put it in my car.
SPEAKER_00Theoretically speaking, if you put the quarter in the cart, did you just purchase the cart? And then is it now actually yours for the low, low price of 25 cents? Theoretically, because if you can get into your vehicle, because most people argue I'm not saying to do it, I'm just saying most people will argue that you're using it. But right, like you didn't you just put a quote. Please say how long I can use it. Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Three-year lease. I'll bring it back.
SPEAKER_00He so Miles uses the key from underneath the stone rabbit, and he opens the door and he finds Mr. Vonner inside. He yells, and then his mom and the landlord come, and they see the guy on the floor, and Miles is like, Oh, but he was calling for Kimberly, and he was saying it hurt, and the landlord is like, um, that's his wife, and she's been dead a year. Like, how would he know that? Because Miles grows up to be a scammy Ghostbuster, so you know, Ghostbuster, I mean, yeah, so he could hear them. Mid-90s, early 2000s. And in case you weren't sure, like, just look at his like clothing.
SPEAKER_02And it's funny, and it's funny that when you say um no flashback, technically, based on the the scenes on the island, it's a flashback and a flash forward, it's both. Yeah, it's Miles flash forward back.
SPEAKER_00Not even enough alcohol for this you, not for the show, for you.
SPEAKER_02I know I'm special because the because currently he's in 77, so it's a flash forward, but it's his flashback.
SPEAKER_00It's I I understand, and that's what's scaring me.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so you when you start to understand Agnes, go seek psych help.
SPEAKER_00Yes, listeners. If you're understanding what she's saying, I think we all might be in trouble.
SPEAKER_02Just drink more alcohol, you'll be fine.
SPEAKER_00Maybe. I mean, I don't know. If you haven't had any alcohol today, maybe you should have a little and then try again. If you have had alcohol, stop immediately. You've gone too far. All right. Mid-90s, early aughts, right? Is that what you call like the 2000s?
SPEAKER_02Ots new to me. I don't know nothing, but nothing.
SPEAKER_00I've heard that term, and I think that's what it means, but I'm not like a hundred percent sure because I went to school, New York City public school. They didn't teach us fancy words like that. Ots. The aughts. Okay, anyway. Somebody tell me if I'm doing this wrong. You know, it's like friends when when Joey is trying to use the words because he's going out with um oh what the hell is her name? Like the one black chick on the show. Oh, yes, yes, the paleont, and she's a paleontologist, so she's very smart.
SPEAKER_02Alicia's somebody, yes.
SPEAKER_00Uh Tyler. Alicia Tyler. Tyler, Tyler. Alicia Tyler, yes, and um and Joey is trying to use the words and the quotes, and they're like, That's not how you do it. That's what I feel like right now. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the princess bride. I don't think that word means what you think it means.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't know. I'm it and if it's a really bad word, I'm really sorry. But I'm pretty sure it means two thousands.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. Anyway. Can you can you spell it for me? And we say IT, I'm disconnecting the zoom.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, no. I think I think it's like A-U-G-H, like one of those fancy English words, you know, that does not look like how it sounds.
SPEAKER_02So but you think it's attached to a decade? I think. No. What is it? I come like A-U-I- Oh anything at all. No, it means anything. Aunt means anything.
SPEAKER_00No. That's not right. Okay, wait, let's try something else. Term for the years. Yes. The 2000s.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so I just did the word. I didn't do an association to the 2000s.
SPEAKER_00Well, it says shortened to the apostrophe 00S and known as the aughts or n not naughtys was a decade that began on January 1st, 2000. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so when you okay, when you do when you Google it with 2000s, because that's something totally different. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Well, wait a minute. So what did you get?
SPEAKER_02Just the word aught.
SPEAKER_00Oh, zero. That's why. Knuck my head. I quit. I quit a delting. It says aughts, the digit zero.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00So that's that's why it's okay, but I was right.
SPEAKER_02Yes, you are right. I just never heard it before. But it's also British, though, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Stella. Hi mama, you're having a bad dream. You're on my podcast. You can't do that. I have no idea if it's British. Sounds British. Outs. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Mid 90s. Early aughts. You learned it here first, kids.
SPEAKER_00There you go. That's that's the word of the episode. Everybody's like, we already knew that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, right? Sorry.
SPEAKER_00Years later, a heavily pierced Miles visits his mother shut in an apartment with his caregiver. With her caregiver, sorry. His mother is extremely sick, bedridden, and is losing her hair. While his mother is happy to see him, she's like, but why now? He replies that he wants answers mostly about his father. Not like nothing says mother like this kid coming way after she already started to die and then asking for something.
SPEAKER_02Like she knows something.
SPEAKER_00Like that will be us with our kids. Like we will be dying, and they're like, Could you no, I fucking can't, okay? No, no, I need to lay here and die. Now go away.
SPEAKER_02But that's really like a you feel this in your bone because since you've been like recuperating.
SPEAKER_00Okay, see? Let me tell you something. You're a single mom. So you you have had like I'm sure many kinds of frustrations that I've never had, or like a dual parent household has had. But do you even understand how frustrating when you watch a kid come start coming towards you because you know that they fucking want something and walk past the other parents?
SPEAKER_02They walk right at the other parent.
SPEAKER_00They are next to the other parent, and they will get up and walk away and come to you. And you're like, does that person not have hands?
SPEAKER_02I think that's more frustrating. But your situation would drive me baddie. I would be like, put me in the white jacket, put me in the padded room, I'm done.
SPEAKER_00These kids, broken ankle, kind of bedridden, especially at first, they will still come up here. I'm fucking high on oxy medication for the pain, in and out of sleep, they still come up here. Like, do you think that we can get I have no idea. I don't know. Ask your father. Like, I don't know what's in the world right now. You think I know what's in the kitchen?
SPEAKER_02I honestly think once you've healed, you need to run away and actually heal. Like walk away. Like, you know what? Lisa quit adulting. I'm done.
SPEAKER_00And I'm I'm sure, I'm sure that there's probably like you know, some men who have experienced this, like, you know, opposite. But for those of you who could understand the frustration, it's like, come on. I mean, come on. Like, sometimes mom just wants to be not the one.
SPEAKER_02Mom just wants to be sick and in bed recuperating. Be that's it.
SPEAKER_00Listen, even when I'm not sick, not recuperating.
SPEAKER_02Just leave the fuck alone.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, just leave the fuck alone. Just once or twice. Like, I you know, I still love you. Once, twice. But it would be nice if I was off the clock for a minute.
SPEAKER_02No, 24-7. No, it's it's more like 25A366.
SPEAKER_00Moms are like never off the clock. And can I just say also, thankfully, because with this whole ordeal, like my mom has a full-time job, okay? And she works like from the afternoon into the night, and it's not a set schedule, it's because of what she does sometimes, like um, depending on how many clients she has to. Oh my god, that sounds like she works at night and she has no no no. It's it's a it's for a medical company. Um, so depending on how many it's medical now?
SPEAKER_02No, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00I'm sorry, I just I just oh she's gonna kill me.
SPEAKER_02Um have to know about it first to kill you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No, no, but anyway, so let's move on.
SPEAKER_02Depending on shift is anywhere between X and my hours.
SPEAKER_00It could be 15 hours. So, and then she's been staying with us most of the week and getting up at like 7:30 in the morning, even though sometimes she doesn't get home until 2 o'clock in the morning. You know, just so that she could like make sure that Amai is on the bus, you know, uh on time, and that like since the stairs are really hard for me, that somebody like feeds me. So she makes me coffee and she'll make me breakfast, and you know, she'll get like my ice pack or whatever. So it's nice when moms are 24-7 when you're the beneficiary. Well, you're not the mom at the moment.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, mom.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, like damn it, mom's eat a break, mom.
SPEAKER_00I know, I know. And I try so hard, like not to like, you know, ask her for too much stuff. And then like yesterday when we came home, I saw her cigarette butts in a in one of my plants, and I'm like, I took a picture and I'm like, could you not? She was like, I thought it was a weed. I was like, it's not, it's lilies, because I didn't sprout yet. They they're they just have the stem, but the flower hasn't bloom, so yeah, honestly, there's another pot right next to that one, and that one was a weed, but because on like the front steps, and Alex mows the lawn, but I pretty much do the weeding, and so since I can't, it would I can't even blame her for thinking that it's a weed because there's weeds everywhere. I won't tell anybody. I'm about to roll my butt into the yard and just sit me on the floor. That's what I do sometimes. Just sit on the floor and I pull them, but I may need to do that now because I'm not gonna be able to walk soon. It's gonna be like a jungle, it's gonna look like the jungle in lost with all these damn weeds. It's a jungle out there. Okay, sorry. I gotta stop myself from singing along. Anyway, Miles wants something from his dying mother, and she's just like, you know, your dad sucked. Go away.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's pretty much the extent of the scene. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, you know, she's like, Oh, they kicked he kicked us out when you were little, and and he's dead. Oh, and also it's like where you could never go. There's nothing that makes a kid want to do something so bad as when you tell them you can't, but not even kids, adults.
SPEAKER_02I think that's like I think that's a human deficiency that we have.
SPEAKER_00Well, maybe she did it on purpose. Maybe she's like, aha. Mommy Jedi mind trick, you know, number one. I know how to get my kid to leave. You can't do that. No, no. Miles is like, okay, I'm doing it. Did you ever watch that 70s show? No. So there's a scene where he gets his license, the kid gets his license. Um, like the family that it's centered around, and he gets his license. And it's it's um, it's set in Wisconsin. So they're like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the you know, the group of friends is gonna go and they're gonna cruise and they're gonna drive or whatever. And the father read is like, okay, here's the rules for the car, like, whatever, whatever, whatever. And don't go out of town. So then when the mom asks Kitty, I I you have to watch this show, I think you would love it. Um, she's like, okay, so where are they going? And he's like, out of town. And she's like, How do you know that? He's like, 'cause I just told him not to.
SPEAKER_01Pretty much. Yeah.
SPEAKER_002004. Sometime later, an adult mouse speaks with Howard Gray. Hey. A weird pairing, but it
SPEAKER_02Works very well. Works so well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Hank. Wait, wasn't his name Hank also in Breaking Bad? I don't remember now.
SPEAKER_02I'm not sure if I'm gonna reason your episode you're listening to today is six hours long because we're Googling everything today.
SPEAKER_00So just was his name Dean Norris, I think.
SPEAKER_02I know I don't know his name.
SPEAKER_00I'm really Dean Noring. Dean Norris.
SPEAKER_02I'm really bad sometimes without my name. Yeah, it was Hank. It was Hank? Yeah, that was like, wait a minute. Maybe just been typecast as a Hank. He looks like a Hank. So what's his name in the dome? Okay. It's actually on my list to rewatch, actually.
SPEAKER_00Um just looking at like Oh, Under the Dome.
SPEAKER_02That's what it was. Sorry, my bad people.
SPEAKER_00I know what you meant though. Oh, John.
SPEAKER_02Oh. No, James. Big Jim. Rennie.
SPEAKER_00Oh, sorry. I saw Under the Dome and I read the name next to it. Uh the name of the show that was next to it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But it would be funny if it was Hank though.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, and he plays a lot of cops and stuff. Um, Hank from Breaking Bad wants Miles to use his powers to contact his son who died in a car accident. He wants to make sure that the son knew that he loved him. Miles is like, you cremated a guy, I really need the body, so just more money and I'll do it. And the guy is like, cool, here's more money. Miles then contacts the spirit and assures him that his son knew he loved him. So Hank from Breaking Bad thanks Miles and Miles leaves.
SPEAKER_02You can't say from breaking bad, it just makes me laugh. Okay, you make me chuckle.
SPEAKER_00I like it. Fine. I I won't say that anymore. But after leaving, Miles is approached by who's this? Naomi, who invites Miles to come with her to a restaurant to give her her business offer.
SPEAKER_02The wigs that they have her in. And it's not the length, it's just like they didn't put the like, okay, just throw this on you. Like they didn't even, like, it's just you're killing me, Smalls. But I love Marsha Thompson. But go ahead.
SPEAKER_00So she takes him to the kitchen of a restaurant, and he's like, Oh, I thought we were going out to dinner. She's like, No, unless you'd like want to eat a dead body. But anyway, he's like, I said, I know a restaurant.
SPEAKER_02I ain't still gonna feed your ass. I would have been highly pissed. Like, I don't care how much money they would have offered me, but like, yeah, no, you didn't feed a bitch. You get nothing.
SPEAKER_00So she shows him the body of Felix, and she tells well, he she doesn't say anything about it. And she says for him to use his ability to tell her about the guy. And he was like, Well, this is Felix, and he was trying to deliver some weird photos of like empty graves and a purchase order for an old plane. Hmm, I wonder what that could be. I don't know. But I don't know, mm-hmm. Oh, and it's like to some guy named uh Widmore, hmm. Both of which obviously was the fake wreckage, right? Like in just in case, you know. I mean, Agnes put it together, so like nobody else should have problems. I know it's coming though. Because you you forget everything, and I sometimes I think it's willingly.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so you have to understand this limited space in here, so things get like if it's not important, I just like shoot it out, it gets shot out. To be fair, I don't remember my name half the time. So it's nothing personal.
SPEAKER_00You know, like yesterday I was listening to um WBLS, and they were doing like a lot of um okay, if you're in New York, you know. Anyway, um, and they were doing like old school, like the old school, like Foxy Brown, like Montel Jordan, you know, like TLC, so it was like jamming in the car.
SPEAKER_02No, every word to every song. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00And like Mace came on, and I'm like, oh, that's right. Like, and then I was like, wait, holy shit, did I forget the words? Like, wait, what? I know. I was just like, wait a minute, how did I forget the words to like some of these songs? And I'm like, Oh, that's not good.
SPEAKER_02Okay, it's okay, okay. The problem is, I'm telling you, it's not you. The problem is they're taking all these songs, remixing them. Maybe so your brain is like, what the fuck is going on? So it's not you didn't forget.
SPEAKER_00Do you know what that station was playing? It was 90s music, almost as if you were a 90s party, but with good music. I know. Um I was jamming in my car, like it was on. I don't know what that DJ was doing, but they should have just played the radio at the party.
SPEAKER_02Um, I get offended. They're like, we're gonna play the oldies, and I'm thinking like 60s, the 60s, like Frankie Valley and stylistics, all that no, here comes no, here comes Queen Latifah and Emma and LL Kujay, and I'm like, wait, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_00I know I put on like you know, light fm sometimes, and it's like I'm not my parents, it's because this is the music I want to hear, like the stuff that we grew up with, and sometimes I'm like, you I mean, you remember from when you lived here, Lightfm. It used to play in like the offices or even on like an elevator, you know, it's that now it's and and I listen and I'm like, I never thought I would see the day that Lightfm would play like such a stuff. In my grocery store.
SPEAKER_02Oh no, like I'm listening to my music in the grocery store. I'm like, wait, what the hell? Right, like things like that.
SPEAKER_00Light of them was the safe station, you know, the socially acceptable, you know, films that I was grinding to at the clubs are not played at like you know, Light of film was like, you know, Phil Collins and Yeah, I can go for some good Phil Collins, okay wrong.
SPEAKER_02Brian Adams, you know. Um, but yeah, the first time, because whenever I was driving my mother around on my phone, my whatever music I have, Spotify, Pandora, whatever, I had her stations, which I love myself. The clap, like the classic RB. Great. And we're driving, and one of like one of my songs came up, and I'm like, what the actual fuck is this? She starts laughing. She's like, bitch, you old.
SPEAKER_01I was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
SPEAKER_02I think that was like the highlight of her day at the moment. Because I was like, I think another gray hair popped out. So my daughter, oh, gray hair is off topic. So my daughter has gray hair, but like, no, I mean no, you can see if you're looking for it. And I'm like, but she knows I said, so that's fine. I still getting gray. So she's like, but no, look. I'm looking, I'm like, they're actually gray gray, they're not like silver. Oh, mine are silver, haha, but hers are gray. She's like, what the fuck is this shit? I was like, I don't know, maybe it's stress and not age related. I don't know. Does your hair is it? I don't know if that happens. Everyone knows, let me know. It's gray hair as opposed to silver hair, stress versus age. I don't know. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00I think I think it's okay. This is my unscientific science take on it. I love it. I do have a degree in science, it's not genetics, but I'm gonna try. This is what I think. When your hair turns gray or silver, it's not that it's turning gray or silver, it's that you lose the pigmentation, or what you know, whatever causes the pigmentation in your hair. So in your case, black, in my case, like blonde. Right. What's left is the gray or the silver. Correct. So I don't think it matters, like whether it's stress or age, it's just whatever is causing the pigmentation to stop pigmenting, it just whatever it leaves behind is what you get.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so I have a question. Okay, okay. So some people just turn silver, but some people turn gray. It's just it's just a genetic.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's just genetic. I guess it's you know, same way your hair is whatever color, whatever thickness, whatever texture, whatever like curly, straight, you know.
SPEAKER_02I think it's just so you're trying to say, okay, I always said, like, when my hair gets more, I can't wait. I'm just gonna do it silver. I'm gonna go ahead and dye the whole thing silver as I get older. That's my plan. So as I get older and I get more quote unquote grays for lack of better term, I might not even have to dye my hair. My hair just may just I'm it might not be I just be silver because I've been blessed with that gene that I can just turn silver.
SPEAKER_00But also don't forget, sometimes like you see people with like full gray.
SPEAKER_02Well, I say gray, but you know, yeah, and it's and it's still different colors, grays, different because like and that also goes to the hair color because I said I think I read somewhere that the you have a naturally darker hair, it usually turns silver normally, and or it looks silver or whatever the case may be. And then those who have lighter hair usually turns gray. I'm like, I don't know, because I have hair minds. One day we'll we'll compare. Like like two apes, and we just like go through each other's hair. Yeah, we could do that. I I think that's kind of I actually am looking forward to that actually. Okay, with some tips with chips, some chips and dip?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. I mean, our hair will be covered in like wok, but it'll be worth it.
SPEAKER_02I mean, listen, with my cats, cats, cat, I have cat hair in my food anyway. So you know, it is what it is, it's fine, it works.
SPEAKER_00Okay, yay! Anyway, anyway, Miles is like, mmm, I'm out, and Naomi is like 1.6 million, and Miles is like I'm back in. Later, Miles is like, I need a fish taco. And he's walking down the street, he's eating his fish taco, and a van pulls up. And who is in that van? It's Bram. That almost rhymes. Did you recognize who Bram was?
SPEAKER_02Okay, so the face, I'm like, I know the face, I know the face, I know that I don't know, I know, but I don't know. Refresh my memory.
SPEAKER_00Bram is currently on the island. He was on the Ajira flight, and he's like somewhere standing in the face. Oh shit, that's right.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, that's right. Holy shit, I'm like, I know the face, I know the face. I kind of like zone out when it gets to Lossy 2.0 because I don't like them. The Lossy's 2.0 give me the bad vibes. Oh, okay, okay, interesting. Okay, off topic. I'm so sorry. I'm having a full day of bedon's time. So for the baby's birthday, Krista made food and other stuff. She also made stuff for walking tacos. I'm like, what the fuck's a walking taco? Because you know, and it's like a bag, like the small size bag of Doritos. Oh, and you put the meat and you put everything in the bag. And I'm like, it's fun to eat, don't get me wrong. And I'm thinking, aren't tacos walkable anyway? Like, yeah, and they're like, but it's messy. I'm just like, no, not if you know how to eat is not.
SPEAKER_00I would I would actually rather have the bag of Doritos, Doritos optional, and then the taco, but like hold the taco like with the bag almost like. And then whatever happens falls in. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Now that is making it work for you. But I'm just like, but I like I don't mind. It's it's fun, but like, but tacos are walkable anyway. It's not like it's a walk. Thank you. It's not like saying, Oh, it's a walkable lasagna. Like, you know, something that you just can't walk and eat. Now that if you got like a walkable lasagna, I'm in.
SPEAKER_00I mean, yeah, no, he's here's some walkable chicken soup, and right.
SPEAKER_02Honestly, I can walk eat chicken soup though.
SPEAKER_00Um, but I mean, obviously, but we're New Yorkers.
SPEAKER_02All we do is walk and eat.
SPEAKER_00Like, that's part of like we we could walk, drive, eat. It's just it's fine.
SPEAKER_02I think it's hysterical because like she goes, her daughter, my daughter's friend goes, You've been waiting all day to say that. I'm like, I have, I really have, and then I'm watching it scene. I'm like, look, he's walking and eating a taco, walkable taco. Okay, back to his fish coffee.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's like if somebody made walkable ice cream or like pizza. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Walkable walkable bubble gum. No, okay. I'm done. Okay, these are the same people that have to eat pizza with a knife and fork. Okay, so yeah, now. Oh no.
SPEAKER_00I also went on. I can't talk about that. I'm traumatized. I'm triggered. Okay. Miles is at his fish stand, he's eating, he's walking, and Bram is like, Hi Miles, I'm kidnapping you. So these masked guys pull him in the van, and Bram is like, don't go to the island. Um, and then he's like, What lies in the shadow of the statue? That's the second time we've heard that now. Do you need me to refresh? No. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Abba Bember.
SPEAKER_00You do you remember? Vaguely. Alana said it to Frank right before she gave him cocotasso. Like, what lies in the stat in the shadow of the statue? And Frank is like, what the fuck are you talking about? Whack remember she knocked him out? Remember Frank got knocked out. She did he got knocked out. What the fuck? In the last episode.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Oh, oh shit. Yeah. Sorry. Alright. No, that's okay. I've been sick, people, and I lost brain cells. Sorry. Love yours. Okay. I just know I'm a little frustrated at this show now. Cause I'm like, great, there's another player in this shit. But go ahead.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, Miles obviously can't answer. And Bram is like, um, I'll give you answers about your ability and your father. You know, if you don't go. And Miles is like, nope, you give me $3.2 million.
SPEAKER_02I'm not mad at him. I'm not mad at Miles. I'm really not.
SPEAKER_00No. But Bram is like, no, get out.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00And he tells Miles that Miles is playing for the wrong team. And when Miles is like, well, what team are you on? He's like, I'm on the team that's going to win. He must play for the Jets. He's delusional.
SPEAKER_02But I'm just like, what, another player in this? I'm like, come on, people.
SPEAKER_00Later, Miles goes back. Miles goes back to visit Hank from Law and Order Organized Crime. And he gives him back the money that he took to communicate with his cremated son. When asked why, Miles is like, I lied to you. You know what? If you wanted your kid to know that you loved him, you should have done fucking told him when he was alive. And I'm gonna give this back to you, and I'm not gonna let you keep living that lie because it's not fair to your son. And then Miles walks out on Hank from organized crime. On the island, Kate and Sawyer return from dropping off young Ben to Richard. And Sawyer is like, hey Miles, I need you to erase the surveillance tape. Kate is worried that Sawyer is gonna get in trouble, but Sawyer's like, I'm Sawyer, I'm good. Miles pops out the tape, but before he can erase it, Horace arrives with a package and gives Miles shit to do. Well, first he's like, Well, where's LaFleur? But Miles is like, I don't know. So Miles is like, okay, cool. Here's the package, you do it. And don't ask questions. He says, I'm gonna put you in this circle of trust. Can I trust you, Miles? Horace is so corny. Isn't he? He is like if if this was the office, I think he would be Dwight. I concur. But like a touch of uh Andy Bernard. You know, because he's very eager, also. Anyway. Miles drives to the location and delivers the package, which is a dead body. Actually, it's a body bag because it's gonna get a body. Then he has to go back. Miles is like, um, why does he have a hole in his head if he fell in a ditch? So he uses his magical Ghostbuster ability to find out what really happened. He learns that the man, well the dead man, Alvarez, had a filling which ripped right out of his mouth and exited his body through his brain. That sounds like it hurts.
SPEAKER_02A little bit.
SPEAKER_00At the hospital, Roger discovers that Ben is missing and Juliet's like, I know nothing. Wink wink. Kate later attempts to comfort Roger, who becomes irrationally angry and suspicious. Roger has had way too much beer, goes to the classroom where Jack is and like throws a bucket around, yells, and you know, is like that bitch Kate. But Jack, who obviously can't let anything lie, is like, no, no, no. Kate would never ever do something like that. She's my friend, wink.
SPEAKER_02The wink wink is cute.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, you know. I mean, the wink wink is only for us, the audience. Roger doesn't get the wink.
SPEAKER_02Roger's annoying.
SPEAKER_00Jack is like, okay, now I need to go to Juliet and Sawyer's house, and I need to let them know about Roger's behavior. When Sawyer arrives home, Jack fills him in on, you know, the whole Kate needs to mind her business bullshit. And then we don't see much more of them. Um Sawyer is basically like, you know, just like cover for me, but then later, Phil finds the tape and goes to confront Sawyer, and Sawyer's like, Oh, I can explain. Come on, come inside, friend. Come inside. Who else saw this? So anybody asks you who else knows about whatever you're about to tell them, you know it's not going to work out for you. Right.
SPEAKER_02It's like um Angela Lansberg and Reshi wrote, every episode, she'll be by herself with the killer. She's like, I know, I know you killed so and so, and now I'm gonna tell everybody because I didn't tell anyone before. Right. And then shock Pikachu show you when they try to kill her.
SPEAKER_00Like, exactly. So either run when somebody asks you that question or lie and say, Oh, I already told Horace and so-and-so, and so everyone's looking for you right now. So it's actually on the bulletin board. Yeah, you don't know what the internet is, but it's already there, it's there. Uh so Sawyer is like, cool, thanks. Knock him out, and Juliet, go get some rope. I love her face. She's like, I love it. She's like, yeah, okay, no problem.
SPEAKER_02She's like, got you, boo. But the look on her face was more like, I know there's a reason for this.
SPEAKER_00Like, it was just like she was a little like, oh, I didn't expect that. That's hot, and I'll go get some rope. Yes! Yes! Team Juliet. Mm-hmm. Horace, after a consultation with Dr. Chang, tells Miles to bring the body to the orchid so it can be determined if the accident was caused by electromagnetism. Miles walks back to his van to complete the assignment, but instead finds Hurley loading coolers filled with sandwiches. You know, with his special garlic mayo, which I want right now. That makes spicy. Just a yellow, but fancy. After he insists that they carpool, because he's like, dude, it's good for global warming, which hasn't happened yet. So we could like prevent it. Curly's always Hurley's always thinking ahead.
SPEAKER_02Curly. It's kind of funny that you said curly because one his hair is curly, but he kind of like that whole three stooch like vibe. Right. What are you gonna slip?
SPEAKER_00As they're in the car, Hurley's like, did you fart? He's like, something in here smells, and it wasn't me. So then he's he starts worrying because Miles is gaslighting him, and he's like, no, dude, that's your mayonnaise.
SPEAKER_02I would have cried.
SPEAKER_00But Hurley's like, the pull over, because I need to check. He's like, I can't give it to them if it's bad. It might be, you know, if it's bad, they might get sick. But instead, he finds uh a dead body. He hurt he handled that pretty damn well, considering it's Hurly.
SPEAKER_02Because he's Hurly. It's why he handled it well. I disagree, but okay. He said it himself. He was like, Yeah, I see him too. Oh well. Like his life is just so like I think he's had so much, he's seen so much of him.
SPEAKER_00I know, but I think that it's like when the when he sees the dead body, they're not like laying dead in a bag, they're hanging with him. They're like kind of friends of his.
SPEAKER_02But I still think it's kind of just like that on top of seeing everything he's seen thus far.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02He's like, meh, what's new? Like, mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00So her you gotta stop eating. Like, this is so not fair. I'm just so hungry.
SPEAKER_02I'm feeling weak and peckish.
SPEAKER_00You and me both.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00I'm hungry too. And I'm high, so now I'm really hungry. Oh no, okay.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that sucks, balls.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00Last night I sat here and ate like a half a bag of potato chips in my bed because it was nearby.
SPEAKER_02How can you that's all that was left? Oh, okay, because like I feel like a piece of shit because I'm like, I can't stop with it. I can literally eat the whole bag. Yeah, no. If there would have been more, I would have eaten more. Okay, okay. Because I was like, what the fuck is wrong with me?
SPEAKER_00I'm a horrible person. Okay. So Hurley confronts him, and Miles tells him what really happened to the body. To Miles's bewilderment, Hurley completely accepts his story, noting he also talks to the dead. And he plays chess with them sometimes. Yes. Miles is like, that's not how it works. And Hurley's like, aha! So Miles is like, Well, I got a feeling about who the deceased was and whatever they knew before they died. And Hurley's like, okay, cool. Like, I just love. He's just okay. At the orchid, Dr. Chang is not happy that Miles brought Hurley along and less happy that Hurley knows about the body. He threat he threatens Hurley with the task. He's like, if you tell anyone, he's like, you think that the kitchen is bad? And he's like, I like the kitchen. I like being chef. He's like, well, then how about weighing polar bear poop on Hydra Island? And Hurley is like, no problem, I can keep a secret.
SPEAKER_02Polar bear poop. And the fact that he was like, no, no polar bear, not the fact that polar bears on an island in the middle of the whatever. It's not a pole, it's not a cold area. That didn't quash his mind. Like, why are there polar bears? No, it's just like, okay, I don't want to travel shit. Okay, cool.
SPEAKER_00So Hurley, who is a little offended about Dr. Chang's attitude, he calls him a douche. And Miles is like, dude, that douche is my father. Hugo, he is my father.
SPEAKER_02But he didn't give me the he didn't seem too, he was just more like, like, yeah, that douche is my dad. Like, FYI.
SPEAKER_00Dr. Chang wants to hitch a ride back to Radzinski. So naturally he gets in the car with Miles and Hurley.
SPEAKER_02Hurley's funny.
SPEAKER_00This was great. Hurley's like, so do you have any kids? Oh, your kid's name is Miles OMG. What a coincidence. Your name is Miles, right, Miles? Oh. So what did he ask him? Do you like OG? Do you like jazz? Do you want to have a beer? And Miles is just like this asshole. They stop at a fake jungle wall. And Chang is like, you could let me out here. Pearly keeps dropping hints about the relationship. Miles is like pissy. And then so actually, where they they're like, oh, what is this? Because it's like all under construction. And then the guy is like, what are the numbers for the hatch? And it's like a like for Hurley, you know? Like, dun dun dun.
SPEAKER_02And of course I thought about you instantly.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And and they're like four, eight, yeah. And then they're like, oh wait, I can't see the last number. It's smudge. And Hurley's like 42.
SPEAKER_0242.
SPEAKER_00See, I haven't been here. Miles is like, um, had you know that he's like, oh, because that's the hatch. What hatch? Our hatch. You know, the one that crashed our plane. On the way back, they get into another disagreement. Miles steals Hurley's notebook in which he's writing the script for Empire for The Empire Strikes Back. You know, with a couple of improvements.
SPEAKER_02That's funny because I'm sure everybody who's thought like shit, I'm back in time. Let me take advantage of the situation. I think it's hysterical. Not mad at it.
SPEAKER_00He's like, well, it's 1977. Star Wars just came out, so um, you know, George Lucas is gonna need the sequel, so I'm gonna help him. Plus, ewes suck. And also, they do not suck. They're just like jungle care bears, okay? Yeah, I like listen, I like the ewoks.
SPEAKER_02I know I saw one of the ones, of course. I saw it like 30 years ago. No, not 30. No, oh my god, that's more like 40. Oh fuck me. I'm like 30. No, well, 40. Oh fuck. I saw a long time ago. I remember the characters. Ewoks are cute.
SPEAKER_00They are cute, and you know what? They live in the jungle and they party. I'd hang out with them. You know what? They got cool tree houses, Gen X's or Ewoks.
SPEAKER_02I feel like we are the Ewoks, we are Ewoks.
SPEAKER_00But Hurley is like, listen, I have issues with my dad, and here's what happened. And also, you should try to have a relationship with your dad. And then so you know, he stalks their house.
SPEAKER_02The window moment, like every good stalker has.
SPEAKER_00You know, he sees his dad. First of all, Hurley is so funny. He's like, Don't you want to like hold yourself as a baby, maybe change your own diaper?
SPEAKER_02Seriously, that I thought that that it was weird, but it did cross my mind too. I'm like, but and my like knowledge of time, my extensive knowledge of time travel. Clearly, you're right. You can't be in the same place with yourself, you can't be in the same time as yourself.
SPEAKER_00That would just fuck up the yeah, but he is in the same time as right.
SPEAKER_02That's why loss, I don't understand lost take on time travel because every other sci-fi book, movie, whatever, there can't be you can't be with you in the same time as you can buy its own rules. Loss is high as fuck. Loss is on the shrooms. They don't know what the fuck they're doing.
SPEAKER_00Miles looks through the window and he sees his dad holding him, baby him, reading a book, you know, googly eyes. It's a very cute moment.
SPEAKER_02It is really cute.
SPEAKER_00And the oh, the book is called Me and My Polar Bear. So I didn't catch that. His uh mom comes in with the phone and they swap. I'll give you the baby. You give me the phone. Okay. And then, but he gives him a little kiss, but then he gets up, and Dr. Chang is like, I have to leave. I mean, he doesn't say that, but like, you know, his body says it. He's like, okay, gotta go. Love you, babe. So Miles is trying to walk away before he can see him, but Dr. Chang comes out and he's like, I need you. You do? Miles. Miles is like, you do? Dude, relax. Right. So he says, I need you to take um take us to the dock to meet a new group of scientists. Miles' like, okay. They go to the dock, the sub has arrived, and from Ann Arbor. I mean, last I checked, Ann Arbor was in Michigan.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so explain to me how the sub got from Michigan to yeah.
SPEAKER_00It obviously tunneled under the secret tunnel under the United States.
SPEAKER_02I don't even look when I unless that they were from Ann Arbor. They're like, okay, everyone meets at Ann Arbor, and then we're going to take you to a coastal port. I would one would think. But no, but go ahead, yeah, that that did not yeah. Unless. Oh unless. Like once they go down under a periscope on down under, um, poof. They end up in the right place at the right time and they just resubmerge and they're right there from the island.
SPEAKER_00Like some weird electromagnetic pocket that sucks them into the next one. Yes. It's like in clue when you go to the corner squares and it's a shortcut to the opposite. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_00Definitely.
SPEAKER_02Oh, they were hoping no one was good at geography.
SPEAKER_00I mean, this is also not the first time that they've talked about the sub and and Arbor. Arbor. Okay. And I also're trying to hide it.
SPEAKER_02Okay, listen, I because one, the American people who listen to it don't know geography, so they would have noticed.
SPEAKER_00Uh I know geography.
SPEAKER_02Okay. I didn't know what aughts were, but I knew geography. That's a good point. Okay. I feel like I love I okay. Go back to my original thought. Weed and shrooms. Okay. Mace with everything.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Well, they're at the dock. The sub from Ann Arbor has arrived. And who should get off it? Debbie. Mr. Faraday.
SPEAKER_02I am not surprised. So I finally get to. So I'm assuming the next episode we could find out like whatever that missed that that weird way he's not. Whatever. I can't remember what they said, but I'm like, what the fuck happened to Faraday? So I'm assuming next week I get to find out what I have to Faraday. Because if not, I'm flipping a fucking table. Make sure there's no food on it though. Because why waste food? Um do I find out next week, Lisa? Do I have to quit and protest? Do I have to go on strike? I don't know. You know what? I think I'm gonna be busy next week. I don't know if I'm able to record.
SPEAKER_00Alright, so this is like a little bit of a stretch. But Howard, when Howard and Miles are talking, or you know, Hank from Law and Organized Crime.
SPEAKER_02Who the fuck is Howard? But Hank, yes.
SPEAKER_00He's Hank is wearing the exact same watch as the one Ben wore in the episode The Man Behind the Curtain, where you see him kill his father. And I guess just because of the whole Star Wars over arching theme, that seems like they probably did that on purpose.
SPEAKER_02Or they just had a limited amount of watches in the prop room.
SPEAKER_00Or that. Okay. When Hurley and Miles are talking, Hurley mentions that Vader tells Luke about being his father, and then Luke gets his hand cut off. But it's actually the opposite. The hand happens first before. I mean, it's the same scene, but it it happens first. So then according to Lost Pedia, it says that this could be a continuity error, or it could be Hurley's error. Albeit unlikely for someone who's seen it like 200 times, or they attribute it to possibly one of Hurley's improvements on the script.
SPEAKER_02So, okay, so they don't know.
SPEAKER_00They don't know. Okay. There's a lot of numbers in this episode.
SPEAKER_02We won't really go into them, but because I'm not gonna, it's not gonna it's not gonna compute them, okay, if you say so.
SPEAKER_00But like, you know, the dates on the check, the money for the apartment, the apartment numbers, the rabbit, the amounts of money, the piercings. It's you know. Oh, and I forgot about this also. Hurley mentions Darth Vader cutting off his son Luke's hand in the Empire Strike Back. In one of the orientation films, remember we saw that Chang has a fake hand.
SPEAKER_02Oh right. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00So interesting. Very interesting. Cultural references. Some like it hot. The episode title is a play on the title of this 1959 comedy starring Marilyn Monroe, Tony Curtis, and Jack Lemon. In the movie, the two main characters must disguise themselves as members of an all-girl band to avoid retribution after witnessing a mob assassination. Pierre and Hurley's conversation about jazz echoes the film's conversation that lent it its title. I mean, I think you could also draw a um a connection to the fact that they're kind of disguising themselves as members of the Dharma Initiative. You know, it's a stretch, but they were it's the same, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Not much of a stretch. Like, you don't have no, it it's not that far-reaching.
SPEAKER_00They list the fur like the first three Star Wars in here, but so the first one was released May 25th, 1977, so you know, obviously it was out. Episode 5, The Empire Strikes Back. The episode title is a reference to the fact that Hurley is writing the script for this movie, which features a planet named Hoth. He's gonna send George Lucas the script. Um, and then Return of the Jedi, several references to the events in this movie, in Hurley's conversation, the destruction of the Death Star, Bubba Fat, being eaten by the Sarlac, and of course, the Ewoks. Don't hate on the Ewoks. When you see Jack in the classroom, the he erased the board, and it was about ancient Egypt and the hieroglyphs, and one of the lines translates as writing of the words of God.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Why do you think if you if you had to guess, why is Faraday back?
SPEAKER_02No, I fucking dear. Okay. That works. I love that. You're like, yep, that sounds he's that's on brand for Agnes. I mean, yeah. I don't know. I think it's connected to why he, yeah, with the mysterious way. They're like, yeah, Faraday's not Faraday. I don't know what the fuck. Whatever, what is whatever it was that they said, I don't remember, but it was weird.
SPEAKER_00No, they were like, he he's he's gone. They said something like that.
SPEAKER_02Like, yeah, but but where did he go? So but why is it round? You remember the Tetley commercial, the Tedley tea bags? Maybe, and because they would you know tea bags are always square, but Tetley, it was round, I guess because sitting in the bottom of your mug. I don't know why I don't know, no one knows why. But the lady goes, and the commercial, but why is it round? And I'm thinking, but why?
SPEAKER_00I'm sorry. Do you have anything else for this episode?
SPEAKER_02Nope. I think you heard enough of my voice. Okay.
SPEAKER_00I would neither confirm or deny. Yes. The next episode is called The Variable. Those are science terms, in case you're not sure. That sounds like a Faraday episode. So, as you know, we've had the constant, and now we're gonna have the variable. Love it. Thank you for participating in Lisa's science corner in this episode.
SPEAKER_02She's like Bill Nye. But Bill Nye is cool.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna hang out with him.
SPEAKER_02Seriously, and he is not to be fucked with.
SPEAKER_00I bet he could hold his liquor.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. I co-signed that. I think he could. And he, I think as much as he's like, you know, Bill Nye, the size guy.
SPEAKER_00He's smart and sassy.
SPEAKER_02Yes, he is no fucks giving. Yeah, that's my kind of guy. Is he single? I don't know. I like smart.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Okay. This is the call to action. As you know, we have wrapped up our bonus series on Married at First Sight season one. And we've already started the next series. But we are prepping for the one after that. And what we want you to do is to text us, and the link is right in our show notes, and we want you to send us your favorite show, and that's it. And then we're just gonna take it from there, and you're gonna see what we're gonna do with them.
SPEAKER_02Do you trust your favorite show in our hands? I mean, you shut it.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna move on.
SPEAKER_02She can either confirm or deny. Right. Yes.
SPEAKER_00We remind you as always to visit us at sassinsips.com. You know, for more information, for all the ways that you can get in touch, support the show. We also asked that you drink responsibly, do not drink and drive. And until next time, I'm Lisa. And I'm Agnes. And we are out of here. See you later. Bye. If you haven't seen, would you continue to watch? If you have seen, how does the pilot hold up to like the rest of the show and maybe the finale? Okay. Okay. You you don't watch that on Ada Night Live, do you? No. You gotta look up the Chad skit. That's you right now.
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