Season 1 recap & Season 2 predictions
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In this bonus episode we play games based on LOST and talk about what Agnes thinks could happen in the second season.
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Hi, and welcome to this bonus episode of Sassin Sips. We are your hosts. I'm Lisa. And I'm Agnes. And welcome. In today's episode, we are going to be playing a lost edition of a match game.
SPEAKER_03Good times.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So before we start, do we can we pre can we pre-game? Mm-hmm. So what are you drinking?
SPEAKER_03I'm drinking raspberry bellini from Aldi's. I don't know if I can say that or not.
SPEAKER_08You just did. You just did.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I did. But it's freaking awesome.
SPEAKER_08And I have Estella. So before we continue, let's address the elephant in the room or the kids outside. Um, it is a beautiful day right now while we're recording, and so there are a shitload of kids outside Agnes' window playing, and no matter what we have tried and she has tried to do, we just we we can't eliminate the sound.
SPEAKER_03So short of telling them to get back in the house, which is kind of rude. This is it, we're kind of stuck with it. And we've had like torrential flood warning rains for like the past five days. So I feel them because if I wasn't in here with you recording this, I'd be in my backyard.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, it this is like the first nice day, so yeah, I feel them. Yeah, so back to business. Here's how round one is gonna work. Business, monkey business. Okay, here's how round one is we will each be asked the same question, and if our answers match, we drink, so we have our cards already. You have your your okay, but that's not it. We also asked you guys. Are you ready for round one?
SPEAKER_01I'm ready. Okay, question one. Ready, ready, ready. I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready. Like SpongeBob. Who has the biggest potty mouth? Ready?
SPEAKER_08Where's your card?
SPEAKER_01Ready?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04One.
SPEAKER_02Well, I oh three. We'll put the cards. No, come on, just put them up. All right. Can you see mine? Yes, okay, we match.
SPEAKER_03Should I oh pause. Should I mirror this and maybe record this?
SPEAKER_01Is anybody I can mirror this? It's mi it's already mirrored.
SPEAKER_08Only your mirrored on your end? Yeah. Okay. All right. And what did the listeners said? The listeners also said Agnes. Woop woo. Drink, drink. Drink. Okay. Next question. Thank you, listeners. Who would survive the longest on the island? Ready?
SPEAKER_06Ready? Go. Go.
SPEAKER_03We match again. Okay. Because I have a personality that they would have killed me. They would have just pushed me off a cliff. That's what I did too.
SPEAKER_08That was my thinking too. Because once after day one, they're like, this bitch is only superficially friendly. Get rid of her. And the listeners actually, it was a topic. Yeah, they actually kind of said Oh, okay, thank you. Thanks. So you know, sure. I appreciate that. Okay. Ready?
SPEAKER_00Next. Let's drink for them.
SPEAKER_08Who has the most opinions about the show?
SPEAKER_04Ready?
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Ready?
unknownYeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I mean, to be fair, at this point of this show, because you know, I haven't seen it before. The listener said both of us. I think I'm opinionated, and you have opinions.
SPEAKER_08All right. All right. And who is more likely to? Oh shit, hold on. How many questions did we do? Yeah, okay. Who's more likely to hoard supplies in alcohol? This is number four, right?
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_08Okay. Ready?
SPEAKER_05There you go.
SPEAKER_08Yay!
SPEAKER_01Yay, we got it.
SPEAKER_08Well, I need a feat bill. Let's see what the listener said. Oh, they said you too.
SPEAKER_03But how about a horse supplies? Did they have you off the fucking island dead? In that first day.
SPEAKER_08Right. Or maybe that's why they killed you to get out your supplies. To get my to get my supplies. That was the plan.
SPEAKER_03At least the and you ran coo.
SPEAKER_08Echu booting. We gotta get the booze. Let's go. Rally. All right. Next. Who would get laid first?
SPEAKER_04Ready?
SPEAKER_08Yeah. We know each other so well. I mean, I would have to wait a little, maybe like, you know, at least a good three days, because technically I'm married. But then after three days, I'd be like, you know what?
SPEAKER_03We're never sure you're not being saved.
SPEAKER_08Right. Yeah, it's good. It's fine. I think if he even waited two days, I'd be surprised, but whatever. The listener said you.
SPEAKER_03Really? Yep. From their from their mouths to God's because it's been a minute. Who would do two? I think he charge because you are married. Who do you maybe? Oh. Maybe. Okay. Ready? Maybe because you are married. Alrighty. You ready?
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Go. Oh, we really.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No. So I'm a I'm a square. I don't, I don't, I'm sc I'm scared of drugs. I don't smoke weed. I take my prescription medic, like my pain pill. My daughter, take this like once every six hours. I'll take it one every six days. I'm just see. I'm paranoid.
SPEAKER_08That was my thinking. I'm like, well, there's no MS medication, so you're like, well, fuck it.
SPEAKER_00Okay. That makes sense. I was I was trying to I only picked you because of lesser. Like, I was like, it's not, you know what, like neither, but if it's yeah, I mean, yeah, I think you're the only one, the only option.
SPEAKER_08I mean, I think I definitely would have gotten there. I don't know about first, but whatever. All right, ready? Let's see. The listener said you too. Right.
SPEAKER_03All right. Little did they know. I'm just an alcoholic. I don't do drugs.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_08Who would have left on the raft?
SPEAKER_03Ready. I'm ready. Yeah. Oh, really? Okay. I I if you want to pussy out and say none, okay. I was trying to be hardcore. Uh yours, I put you just because I thought I had picked a name. Like, I knew I wasn't going into it because based on my like, I think the whole rap was a stupid idea to begin with. So you know I wasn't gonna go. So I'm like, oh, I guess.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, that was my thinking. And I was like, I ain't going on that shit.
SPEAKER_02But you know, you put you pussy out. You didn't need you didn't answer. What did listeners say? Listener said both of us.
SPEAKER_00I tried to get rid of us.
SPEAKER_08It was a tie, yeah. When I counted up the results, it was a tie. All right.
SPEAKER_03A tie between both of us? That's funny.
SPEAKER_08Okay, so the next game is lost perception. Just like the last round, but we're gonna be asked uh different questions, and same thing, if our answers match, we drink. Ready to go?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so just to be clear, uh Lisa's gonna try to guess what I'm gonna say.
SPEAKER_08No, no, no, not yet. That's round three.
SPEAKER_03Lost perception with Axe Lisa.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Oh, shit, I'm ahead. I'm just no that's okay.
SPEAKER_08Okay, it's okay. I have my answers written down, so you can just say it.
SPEAKER_03See, look. Ready? Here's the first question. Okay, you know what it was because my question when I wrote my questions down, I had that thought in mind.
SPEAKER_08Yes, yeah, because I took I took what and I merged them. Yes, okay, okay. All right, round two. This round uh this round was called Lost Perception. We will be asked the same question, and again, if our answers match, we drink. Ready? Drink, ready, okay. Which character has the most growing to do?
SPEAKER_04Ready, ready, ready.
SPEAKER_08I can't see.
SPEAKER_01Oh, what'd you write? Oh, Jack. Oh, we don't Jack.
SPEAKER_03I I think Jack because he just has I think he still blames himself. But Shannon's a good answer too. I didn't think I forget about her.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_08Let's see what the listener said Charlie. So none of us match.
SPEAKER_03Oh god, yes, because you well, he still took the drugs, but we don't know if he's gonna use the drugs yet. But that makes sense because I thought about that too. I'm like, well, he did take them, but we don't know if he's gonna use them.
SPEAKER_08I I'll be honest, I did think Jack also. I thought about Jack, I thought about Sawyer, and I landed on Shannon.
SPEAKER_02I think that I mean it's a hard question because they all have growing, but it's all relative as to what's the most like where they started off and where they're at now.
SPEAKER_03It's no, that was a hard question. Who did that one, moron?
SPEAKER_08Okay, who is the most likable among the survivors? This is easy.
SPEAKER_03Ready? Oh, who's yours is yeah, Jan.
SPEAKER_05The wife. Because everyone likes her. Sun.
SPEAKER_03I thought it was Jun.
SPEAKER_08In real life.
SPEAKER_03Oh, maybe that's I got her real name. So I got her, I got her real name confused. Okay, so yeah, son. Oh, she everyone is likes her, no one side-eyes her, they all listen to her. I like her, I like them both. Okay, so yeah. Okay. I just thought we would have got this one.
SPEAKER_08All right. Listener said Hurley or Charlie.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_08So guess I'm drinking.
SPEAKER_06I don't drink no more.
SPEAKER_08All right.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_08Who is Jack's truest ally?
SPEAKER_06This is a hard one. Um, now I said Hurley.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna tell you why I said Hurley. Okay. I said Hurley because I was gonna put Kate. But then you think about even when she has his back, she has ulterior motives. Hurley's like, all right, we'll do this, okay? Like he's a team player.
SPEAKER_08You know, I didn't even consider Hurley, but he, yeah, like even when and twice Jack needed help with medical purposes, and Hurley was there for him.
SPEAKER_03Right. And then Hurley's kind of like uh, I don't want to say caught gesture, but he like he's in it as far as the whole group of people, as far as like with the whole golfing. He thought about the bigger picture, so I see them as you know a good team in that sense. But I Kate was my initial answer.
SPEAKER_08I'm oh yeah, Kate. And I'm like, Yeah, and you see, I got to this question and I was like, Kate, next. I didn't really give it much thought. All right, let's see. Listener said Kate. We're never gonna drink again. Speak for yourself.
SPEAKER_06I I expected that because that's everyone's first.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, that was kind of I'm never gonna drink again. That was basic bit shit. All right, all right, next. Which character is the most important to their survival? Ready?
SPEAKER_05And they hate to say this. I can't see. Oh you put jaid jack. I put Saeed because I wrestled with this because let's be real.
SPEAKER_03Do you know how many people die of simple infections and simple things every day? Um as opposed to I mean, I'm not even talking about falling off the clip, I'm talking about the the little things and having you have son who's who has her home remedies. You also have Jack who's uh he's a doctor. Sometimes you need a surgeon. And I I think that was the only reason. I um but then you think bigger picture as survival-wise, I think it's the tie of Sayyid and Locke in a way, if Locke didn't go crazy.
SPEAKER_08Locke, Saeed, and Jack were my top three choices for this. Yeah, and here's here's why I narrowed it down. Here's my logic. I took Locke out of it immediately because Locke is very like one-sided, Locke is very to me, Locke is almost selfish in that respect. Absolutely because yeah, and Jack was definitely like my next in line because he's a doctor, but then like what we talk about, he's always like flying off the handle, kind of once he makes his decision, it's like he goes, and he tends to make decisions emotionally. Absolutely, you're right. But Saeed is a soldier, he's a leader, and Said is very smart and very even-tempered, and so yeah, we've seen the emotional side of him, but he tends to be very strategic in his thinking, and because he's a soldier, he probably has some basic medical training also. So ding ding ding, I win.
SPEAKER_03You win. I'm gonna cheers to you. I can't drink, but I'm gonna cheers to you.
SPEAKER_08Cheers!
unknownThank you.
SPEAKER_08All right, and listen, listener said lock.
SPEAKER_03Which is a fair the first the first half of the season, I was in lock two.
SPEAKER_08It's not a bad answer because it was he was in my top three, also. Three, I mean absolutely, I think and granted, maybe like if he if he was Well, why did you drink?
SPEAKER_03We didn't match.
SPEAKER_08Because you shares to me, and so I decided to drink.
SPEAKER_03Okay, that makes sense. I had a brain fart. Okay. Um no, that's the right answer.
SPEAKER_08But but maybe if Locke had to lead the survivors instead of being left to his own devices, maybe he would be a better leader. Who knows?
SPEAKER_03Sometimes we don't got time for that though.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Alright. And this, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Okay. Ready? This is fun. Yeah. Okay. What was the most dramatic scene of season one? Okay, ready?
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm gonna say. Ready.
SPEAKER_08I d I really don't.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I know. Aw. Oh, okay. That's okay, that's too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_08That was I didn't even think about that, but yeah. That was heart-wrenching.
SPEAKER_03Can we cry in silent in like in memory of them? No, okay. Okay, we can.
SPEAKER_08The poor little out for a homies. Yeah, poor one out. Well, wait, yeah.
SPEAKER_00What'd the listeners say?
SPEAKER_03Yes, exactly. Taking the boys, taking the boy. Now you see for some reason, I like that taking the boy. I don't that it that wasn't coveraging for me. I don't know why. As a mother, you'd think it would be. Well, I don't know why it was. It was it was a dramatic.
SPEAKER_08And it wasn't dramatic scene. So that's what we asked for. Dramatic.
SPEAKER_03So dramatic, yeah. Okay, yeah. I feel even but I feel like a cold-hearted person now. I feel like there's something wrong with me.
SPEAKER_08See, I the reason I chose the Charlie scene is because even though I mean, obviously, even though I knew that Charlie was gonna live, watching the emotions from Kate thinking that he's dead, and from Jack just not giving up, it just I don't know. That's that still will make me shed a tear, even though I know that he's gonna fucking live.
SPEAKER_03I can see how, yeah, yeah. I kind of forgot about those little nuances. I still Vincent though.
SPEAKER_08But the character that was the most polarizing in season one.
SPEAKER_03This was hard. This was hard because it's different time, is there's different aspects, and there's like do you do big picture? Do you do little picture? Do you do it's a hard question? Fucking moron pick this question.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I I concur because I had a hard time with this question.
SPEAKER_02Alrighty, um bitch, yeah.
SPEAKER_03All right, I hate to say it, I hate my answer.
SPEAKER_08Oh, okay. Okay, son. I almost picked it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, why son?
SPEAKER_08Okay, I picked son because of the language, and not just because she didn't quote unquote speak English, but because she did speak English and she only and she hid it and she only allowed some of the other characters to know, which created a divide because you had Kate who knew and Michael that knew, and so it created a divide where she was she had one persona when she was with them alone, and a whole nother persona when she was with her husband or the rest of the survivors. That's why I picked her.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. She put she polarized herself, she kind of divided herself as opposed to the people on the island.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, she was polarized, yes, she was polarizing herself in a way that but there were moments where when they were yelling at her to like explain or this and that, and Kate is like, oh, Michael was yelling at her because he knew, and Kate is yelling. Michael's like um trying to get her to explain because he knows that she speaks English, and Kate is yelling, she doesn't understand, but she knows, so she's she's trying to put her secret. She's good, she's got one person trying to expose her and one person trying to protect her. So I feel like that created a divide. Whereas maybe if if nobody knew, it wouldn't have even gotten that far. Or if she would have just told people from the get, it would have created more of a harmony. Okay, explain Jack.
SPEAKER_03I think Jack Jack was kind of obvious because one, there was the caves, there was a division of like the cave camp or the beach camp. And then even like throughout the episode, throughout the season, whenever there's some kind of any kind of discussion or debate or A or B, up or down, left or right, his voice is the deciding voice on who gets divided which way. So I find that he he's polarizing in that sense that it's it's obvious he people either leave, either follow him or they don't. There's no if, ands, and buts. He doesn't leave room for a third party. So it's like his way or like either they agree with him or they don't. So I think because I find there are some people that either less polarizing or not polarizing at all, when you speak with them, you can like, you know what, I agree with you on A, B, and C, but let's do D, E, and F. He with people with him, is either yeah or nay. There is no he doesn't broke no medium.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but that's them. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, you got a point. All right. Cheers.
SPEAKER_02Okay, but thank you. Cheers to me. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_08Listener said luck.
SPEAKER_03I could see that. Yeah. Right, because Boone was following him regardless of his sister, but he did help Boone with his relationship with his sister. And so as far as you know, you listen, this but needs to be boundaries. You need to set boundaries, she needs to set boundaries. There needs to be boundaries because this is what this is all fucked up. Okay.
SPEAKER_08All right. If you could bring back one dead character from season one, who would it be?
SPEAKER_04Ready?
SPEAKER_08Yeah. The pilot.
SPEAKER_03I didn't even think about it. Um, I don't like Boone. And I was like, yeah, Boone? No. Um, then I'm like, well, Joanne, because well, she didn't fuck nobody. And then I was like, the teacher, like, yeah, no, he's annoying. I said, no, the pilot. Because one, I love that actor. And two, he would have been a great I have a feeling he would have been a great character. I just have a feeling. I think he would have taken over as part of like the rogue leader.
SPEAKER_08Because he's a so I I didn't consider the pilot. I can like I considered the same characters that you did. Um, but I also considered um Scott or Steve or whichever one died, and the Marshall. The Marshall. I forgot, I keep forgetting these people died. And so I and and actually I considered Ethan also. But but I thought about the Marshall because I was like, I wonder what the dynamic would have been like had he lived, but still been trapped on the island. But then I was like, but it's probably it probably would have been more fun to see the dynamic of Boone being still alive and and Saeed. So that's why I chose Boone. That's a good one. All right, listeners said Arts and Boone. That was the the biggest uh confession. Yeah, yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. Alright.
SPEAKER_03I just hated Boone. He just got on my nerves.
SPEAKER_08So I was which character should have been killed off?
SPEAKER_03Ready? Okay, you're gonna smack me. Okay, go ahead.
unknownBoone.
SPEAKER_08Oh I think if any of them really had to go, it was Boone.
SPEAKER_03I mean I thought I was at Lisa's gonna smack me from being um a smart ass.
SPEAKER_08I and I chose Boone because he was one of the main characters, but I don't think that he had much more to offer.
SPEAKER_03No. And he offered to begin with. He could have been killed off when the frame crashed.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I'm sure Ian Summerholder would love to hear that.
SPEAKER_03Alright, next actor, the character suck balls.
SPEAKER_08Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Listeners said Kate. What? Oh no. She has such an interesting character and relationships with everybody.
SPEAKER_08I don't know what to tell you.
SPEAKER_02All right.
SPEAKER_08We still love you, listeners. Oh yeah. But you see, and this is the fun part because this makes us go. It's like things that make you go, hmm. Alright. We're aging ourselves.
SPEAKER_03I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_08Okay, favorite season one episode. I guess he went to run. Oh okay. Talk about it.
SPEAKER_03You talk about yours first.
SPEAKER_08I chose numbers because this was the episode where I feel like things really started to come together like and be like the proverbial bow. You know, when you start wrapping things up in a nice bow, it was like that episode for me where there have been these numbers here and there. Um like the flight and and the numbers that kept kind of coming up, like where you see, oh, like the the safety deposit box was eight fifteen and the flight was eight fifteen, and and it's like okay, what a coincidence, but then in this episode it was all of a sudden like wait numbers Wait, hold up, right, wait a minute, and not just and and eight and fifteen are part of the numbers, but numbers in general seem to play a bigger role. Because the lottery numbers, the numbers around Rousseau's maps, the numbers around the hatch, and now all of a sudden you've got Hurley, who was seen as kind of like a lovable, huggable side character, is now front and center and has so much more to offer us, like that we want to get to know. And that episode always stands out to me because I just feel like it it definitely takes the show from from like one level to the next.
SPEAKER_03I just want to make sure if something you said just made me click, I had like a light bulb go off, and I just want to make sure my memory was correct, so I don't have to double check my my mental screen. So you said that I mean I'll get to my my point later, but to bring your point home more with the importance of the numbers in the show in general, numbers are everywhere. Okay, so are you familiar with the Fibonacci sequence? And you know that you'll find the sequence throughout nature: the snail shell, flowers, sand dunes. So that's math into nature, so there's a whole math math. So you just saying that, like there's numbers everywhere. That's like, well, yeah, the Fibonacci sequence. So but yeah, that was just kind of cool how you said that related to the show, but hey, not just the show, but an actual like IRL.
SPEAKER_08And I did speak as we are on the verge of season two. This is a thirsty drink. That's okay. I'm a thirsty drink. I took a thirsty drink before. I'll I'll give you this the numbers will play there there might be a focus. Like yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't I don't know how else to say it, but like, yeah. Okay, we'll learn more about them.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Yeah. Oh, I said boys to run only because I Kate's story has always interested me from the get. I'm like, I need more, I want more, I want to know more. Um so I got more. Of course, I want to know more. I just I I I feel like there was something so much more to Kate than just her being a run, obviously. That's that was obvious. So that's why that episode made me happy.
SPEAKER_08Listener said walkabout. I think that's a pretty common one.
SPEAKER_03Okay, that was a good one. That was a good one, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Okay, next. What is this one scariest part of the island? Ready?
SPEAKER_03I'm warning you, mine was very sarcastic.
SPEAKER_08Let me oh god.
SPEAKER_03I can't see where the monster lives. Wherever the monster lives. Oh, okay. Because I don't find any part of the island particularly scary. But yeah, my shopping rent, my shoppies start drying out, so I had to use like a regular gel pin. So sorry.
SPEAKER_08Okay. Um, yeah, lucky for me, I'm married to a mover, so like we have the the big ass Sharpies like all over the house.
SPEAKER_03The house. What was your answer? The others. The scariest part? Yes. Oh, I'm thinking actually location.
SPEAKER_08No, so here's why I said well, okay, yeah. Here's why I said the others. Because I agreed then.
SPEAKER_02Can I change my answer? Sure.
unknownSure.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so my answer is the others. Okay, so that's drinking. All right, there you go, drink. I misunderstood the question, but yes.
SPEAKER_08No, that's fine. Yes. So I chose the others because we haven't seen them, we've heard about them. It's it's kind of almost like folklore at this point. But and the only thing that we know about the others is Ethan was probably one of the others, and he tried to kill he kidnapped Claire and wanted to get out her baby. We know that there's some kind of whispers in the jungle. Somehow, when they had sentries um line lined up, they still got through and killed either Scott or Steve. And then and then they've come in to take the boy.
SPEAKER_00The boy.
SPEAKER_08And so these are people or beings or whatever you want to call them, that we still have no idea who they are, what they are, where they are. There's so much mystery around them that for me that would be this more scary. Because I was at first, I was like, oh, the smoke monster, because that thing eats people, but then I was like, Well, but you can see it coming, you can hide in the bamboo grove, counts of five, like Kate did, and boom, they're gone.
SPEAKER_03But not knowing is this is the terrifying part of life. Absolutely. All right, I concur.
SPEAKER_08Do you wanna you have anything else to say on that? You want to see what the listeners said?
SPEAKER_03No, you said it. Okay you said it out, you said it all. I concur.
SPEAKER_08Okay. Listener said the black smoke.
SPEAKER_03That's that's a little creepy.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, that would have been my answer. All right. Uh where would you rather live? The beach or the caves?
SPEAKER_03That was easy for me. You said the caves? I said the beach. I don't like this. I don't like the sun. I've already been blessed and kissed by the sun gods. That's one. Um, two, adult, I because I'm thinking long term. I need protection from the sun and the elements. I need fresh water. I need to be a like high tide. Like, no, I no, caves.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I thought about caves, but I feel like that feels almost too claustrophobic for me in the sense of I'm I'm in the jungle and I'm I'm kinda like if the smoke monster came, I'm kind of fucked. But like if you're on the beach, there's like a passing ship, or the or at least the hope of a ship or a plane or this is what do you want to live?
SPEAKER_03Did they say that you couldn't have centuries in both uh reserves? But if you have you do realize you know you you said the J-word.
SPEAKER_08What?
SPEAKER_03You said jungle.
SPEAKER_08Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01In the jungle, the jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.
SPEAKER_08Okay, I have to. Okay. Alright. Alright, let's see. The listener said the beach.
SPEAKER_03Beach. Everyone loves the beach. I'm not a beach person. Like in the best of times of life, I hate the beach. So people most people like the beach. All right. I'm anti, I'm just I'm not normal. I get it. Alright. Ready?
SPEAKER_08Okay, so next. Round three. What the hell? Oh, wait. I don't know. I have cards in my hand and I don't know why. I don't remember why.
SPEAKER_03I actually on the back of my cards, I wrote down like one one, like round one, question one, so I can know which is which.
SPEAKER_08That was smart. I did it. Alright, so in this round, uh I'm gonna try to guess what Agnes will say. Ready?
SPEAKER_01I'm ready.
SPEAKER_08Okay. Who will be the first character to die in season two? Grant, and this is like granted, you know, somebody died.
SPEAKER_03But you're you're guess right, right, right. But they have to die.
SPEAKER_08Mm-hmm. Who's that? Shannon?
SPEAKER_03Shannon.
SPEAKER_08Okay, let's see what I said. I I said Jin.
SPEAKER_03You thought she no, she needs to stay longer. I think she's yeah. Why would you think I was gonna say Jin? Because the husband.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because he I'll give you the real names. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Because he we we didn't see what happened to him on the raft.
SPEAKER_03Exactly why I think he's gonna be fine.
SPEAKER_08Okay. Alright. Ready?
SPEAKER_03Boss is crazy that way.
SPEAKER_08Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Who will be the first character to get some ass? That hasn't got an ass yet, right?
SPEAKER_03I said I said Kate and Jack. Oh they're gonna be they're gonna do the they're gonna do the nasty.
SPEAKER_08Okay, ready? So I guess you will say Kate.
SPEAKER_03I didn't know because they have to have I was gonna say Kate. Then I'm like, well, she has to have sex with somebody. You know what I mean? Like the you know, someone, you know. Yeah, that bottle was good. Guess who's going to the store after we're done?
SPEAKER_08I got my second beer. All right. I I brought two this time. Okay.
SPEAKER_03I I have another bottle downstairs, but not of the raspberry bellini, and that was fucking awesome. Yes, so but ready.
SPEAKER_08Who will be the first character to find love?
SPEAKER_03Claire slash Charlie.
SPEAKER_08Aww. I think I guessed you would say Jack.
SPEAKER_03I don't think he's capable of love right now in this point in his life. I don't think he's capable.
SPEAKER_08Okay. Alright, next. Who will have the most shocking revelation?
SPEAKER_03Danielle.
SPEAKER_08Ooh, I don't even consider her. I guess you will say, whoop, son.
SPEAKER_03Oh, son. That's a good that I think only reason I think I picked Danielle is because she's been there longer and there's some shit that we just don't know yet.
SPEAKER_08And we're gonna be like, oh shit. Yeah. Okay. That was that's good thinking.
SPEAKER_03And who will come in a good moment?
SPEAKER_08That who will have the most growth.
SPEAKER_03I hate him, but I think I have I have hope in him that he's gonna do some most, like he's gonna do well. Yes. The reason I say Jack, well, I I killed her off, so I can't say, you know. Um we've already killed her off.
SPEAKER_08She grew, she grew so much before she died.
SPEAKER_03Right. Um, the way the season ended with um Sawyer telling him about his father and the way his father felt about him, I think that's the linchpin and him doing some amazing things with his with himself.
SPEAKER_08See, and I say I think he's I thought you would have said Shannon because you keep saying how she has so much potential.
SPEAKER_03So I just remind you that was the but that was the first qu right, because that was my first question was who's gonna get her killed off. So I can't have her, but um um I think she has potential. If I didn't kill her off, I think it's gonna be a little bit longer than this season, too. I think I don't think what do you mean?
SPEAKER_05What's their what's gonna be long?
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna say it would have because this the growth time. I think it would have taken her longer to do growth than Jack. I think Jack had his moment of healing. Shannon now has just been broken down and she just started building up again. You know what I mean? With the death of her brother.
SPEAKER_08So I think So then why do you think that she's gonna be the first one to die?
SPEAKER_03If you it um it was just really like any mini money mo. Um, I also thought that because of her pain, my thought was because of her pain, I think she'll be a little bit more reckless. I'm not saying she'll do stupid things. I don't know. I think she's just at a pain, a point in her life for the pain of losing her brother where she just don't give a fuck. So I think some she may she may do something, not necessarily just stupid, just don't really care, and that may cause her to die. I think Ed was at a point, I think she is probably the first one to be in that position.
SPEAKER_05Right. I mean it makes sense.
SPEAKER_08Okay, I don't oh, this is why I had them written down again. I'm like, why do I have names written down? You forgot about the bonus? I forgot about it.
SPEAKER_03I finished a bottle of sparkling wine.
SPEAKER_08That's awesome.
SPEAKER_03Oh I saw that that was picture perfect, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_08Alright, we are up to our bonus round. Everyone's favorite, fuck Mary Kill. Yeah. Alright, ready?
SPEAKER_01But wait! What? You didn't tell them the twist with the kill part.
SPEAKER_08Oh yeah, so whoever we kill, we have to say how we kill them.
SPEAKER_03If they if they've already been dead, if they've already been killed off. Like if they've already been killed off, you could you have to change their depth.
SPEAKER_08Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03Right, if they yeah, yeah. All right. I put it all in one card, is that okay?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I mean we can just we can just talk. I mean, I have them on cards, but we could just talk about it. All right.
SPEAKER_03Who would you fuck? Sawyer. Sawyer. That was easy. Yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_08How about who would you fuck?
SPEAKER_01I told you.
SPEAKER_02Sawyer? Yeah. Oh, I didn't realize I thought you were guessing for me. No, I was telling you mine. Okay. Yep, Sawyer.
SPEAKER_03That's why it was like, hello, drink. Yeah, because we got the same one. Okay. All right.
SPEAKER_08Mary.
SPEAKER_03You go first.
SPEAKER_08No, you go first because I have mine written down.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Uh oh, that's right. Mary, Saed. Said, Saeed. Ah we both said Saeed, okay. Woo.
SPEAKER_08Listen, that motherfucker will keep your ass safe.
SPEAKER_03He's he is steady. He is dependable. He's steady. And I wouldn't think about keeping me safe per se.
SPEAKER_08But he but he's he's got like that that that security, and to me, like that like that's attractive. You know, like absolutely. I'm I'm all for doing things at yourself and being capable and not depending on someone else. But the fact that you can and you know that he's a dependable motherfucker who can take care of shit. Oh my god, like yeah. Anyway, kill go ahead.
SPEAKER_03You already know the answer because I I I rant and rank. Oh I said Jack.
SPEAKER_08Oh, I said boon.
SPEAKER_03Boone, I forgot about Boone. Yeah, okay, because Jack is on my nerves. But how would you kill Boone? I dun dun dun. Be creative.
SPEAKER_08I really just don't know. I'm not that creative. Um if if I had to change the way Boone died, maybe. Hmm. I was thinking about maybe what if he drowned when he tried to save Joanna? But then but then he would have gone out a hero. Or uh well, I mean he kind of already did go out a hero.
SPEAKER_03I'm okay with that. Or he could have died like secondary drowning. So you think he's okay, and then boom, two days later he's dead.
SPEAKER_08Okay, that's why I that secondary drowning scares the shit out of me.
SPEAKER_03It's scary as shit. That scares the fuck out of me. Not for me. That's forced to drown. But but like for the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, as a person watching over someone else that you thought drowned, like, oh no, they're safe now, and then boom, they're not. So sorry. No, so I know I had a couple of things to say about like season two. Like what I think is gonna happen.
SPEAKER_08Oh, are we there yet? You didn't say how you would kill Jack. I didn't because it's not dead. Oh, so you get so you're out of that? That's not fair.
SPEAKER_03Okay, how would I kill Jack? Um, um, I didn't think of anything because if I was to kill Jack, the others would take him and then they will find him piece by piece throughout the island. Next.
SPEAKER_08Alright. Let's let's go over some of the trivia that we weren't able to talk about during the season.
SPEAKER_03Because of my novice stat my novice uh status, yeah. Status, yes. Alright.
SPEAKER_08So during House of the Rising Sun, this was the only time that Boone appears alive without any speaking lines. But obviously, had I read that during that episode, you would have realized that he was gonna die soon.
SPEAKER_03You know what, to be quite honest with you, I don't think it would have clicked. Really? Alright. I mean he was gonna die eventually, because I'm sure all of them would die eventually. Or most of them would have died eventually. Yeah. All right. All right. And solitary place.
SPEAKER_08Solitary. Alex was only referred to as he by Saeed and my child as Rousseau. And you actually picked up on that.
SPEAKER_03I did. You did. But I'm a genius.
SPEAKER_08But I didn't, but I didn't want to let on that you were like onto something, so I just tried to like play it off.
SPEAKER_03So that's why I don't remember it. Oh, what did I say? I don't know what I said.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, no, you said exactly this like that she never referred to Alex as he. God damn, I'm fucking good. Yeah. Go listen to the damn episode and you'll hear what you said. I hate the sound box. Damn, Gina. Phrase by another. Hurley is not concerned when Sawyer's name does not appear on the manifest. We didn't know it.
SPEAKER_03No, but when they found out his real name, it click like it kind of like slowly went in my mind. I was like, what the f but wait? And then I was like, but did I miss something? I was doubting myself.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03So is that is that is that a loophole that the writers just forgot?
SPEAKER_08I don't know. I mean, they um I kind of took it as when Sawyer, when Hurley went to Sawyer to ask about the manifest, Sawyer probably was like, Yeah, my name is this.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_08You know, and then just like whatever. Um and just kind of told him. Whereas Ethan obviously because Sawyer even if Sawyer had said no, my name is Sawyer, he would have said, Okay, well, what's your last name? And so Sawyer had to say something. So even if he said my last name is Ford, Ford is still gonna be on the manifest. On the manifest. Okay. Whereas Ethan Rom is not, so that nowhere's, yeah. That's that's how I kind of internalized it.
SPEAKER_03I'm just really upset that this bottle's empty. I'm upset. Not that I don't have like I have more downstairs. I have a peach wine, but this raspberry bellini was fucking awesome. But go ahead. Now I can't go to the store because I'm I drink a bottle of wine, so I can't go to a store and get more.
SPEAKER_08No, you just have to drink the peach.
SPEAKER_03Wah woman. Oh, the Stella. Okay.
SPEAKER_08Okay, so I I omitted this, but I I'm not really sure why. But okay, so here. In 2006, the rock band Senses Fail named a song on their sophomore album, Still Searching, after this episode. And I'm not sure why I omitted it that time.
SPEAKER_03I don't know why you did either. I don't know why you added it.
SPEAKER_08I'm like and yet, here it is. You're welcome.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.
SPEAKER_08Okay. In the episode special, the Spanish language comic read by Walt originally belonged to Hurley as seen in Exodus Part 2. So we we've seen this. Um, so what's next? Oh, homecoming. Scott became the first survivor to be buried at the cemetery. Now, I remember why I I omitted this because it was the first survivor. Which leads to leads you to believe that there's more comfort. Yeah. And so I just didn't want to, you know, stir that.
SPEAKER_03To be honest with you, at that time, I probably would never have I wouldn't have thought anything of it. Because I because as this like it's a six-season episode, it's a six-season show. I know people are gonna die. I know people are gonna die. So I so him being at first would have been like, okay, someone has the like you know what I mean. So yeah, but yes, I see why you left it out though, but I it would have gone over my head. I'm like, okay.
SPEAKER_08Okay, so now let's get into questions and predictions for you. So now, question is why do you think Walt was taking and what happened to him?
SPEAKER_03Because he's special. I told you that. He's special. Um, for some reason, the the I I I don't know. The others need him when they want him. And Locke has already said, I'm looking up just so you know, I'm looking at my notes, so I'm not cheating, I'm not, I'm not looking at the Facebook or anything. I'm just looking for my notes.
SPEAKER_08Oh, is that that was having us to check Facebook? Let's see.
SPEAKER_03No, don't check Facebook. Listen to me. No, um, I'm doing my Glen close. I will not be ignored. Okay, you see that you ever see um Vater Attraction?
SPEAKER_08Like a hundred years ago.
SPEAKER_03Okay, but anyway, um Locke said that he was special. Like, dude, the kid made birds fly out of nowhere, like for whatever reason. I don't know. I know he's special. And what happened to him? He is sitting on a throne of wood, and he is now the other's king. I don't know. Oh no, he they have him locked in a metal cage and he's their seer. I don't know! This show is so fucking crazy, it could be any of it.
SPEAKER_08No sexploitation, no, Jamal. Hi, Jamal! Okay. I know I know he's gonna think that we're making fun of him, but that was awesome.
SPEAKER_00We are quite frankly are in love and friendship.
SPEAKER_08The show has been the the show is like 15 years old, and that is not a theory I have ever heard. And for that, I thank him. Because that's fair.
SPEAKER_00Considering that was his first episode ever seen, was a season. I'm like, okay, that kind of makes sense. That was awesome.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, Jamar. We still love you. We love ya! Please, please come back, please come back, right?
SPEAKER_03Because Lisa's gonna fire me, and we need you to take over my role. Next. Oh, burn.
SPEAKER_08All right, how did the polar bear get to the island?
SPEAKER_03We discussed this numerous and sundry times.
SPEAKER_08Talk about it now.
SPEAKER_03Walt, Walt read the magazine, was reading the the what's that thing, the comic book, and there's a polar bear in it, and then boom, polar bear, boom, just like he was reading the book on the bird, boom, birds, all right, boom, waltz did it.
SPEAKER_08Okay, well, let's let's hmm. Walt was reading a book about the birds of Australia, correct, and he was in Australia, so clearly the bird that flew into his window was from Australia while he was in Australia. So not a yeah, while the bird definitely flew into the window, not a big leap, but polar bears don't live on tropical islands, on tropical islands, it came from polar bear village.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so we already know this island is wacky. Come on, we already know there's something a lot going on.
SPEAKER_08I know, but let's but like okay, so Walt summoned the bear to come and get them, but how did it get on the island in general?
SPEAKER_03Just like they play in like um the hunger games. The game masters just put things on the island and poof.
SPEAKER_00Um I don't okay, okay.
SPEAKER_08All right, is this like a mess?
SPEAKER_03No, this is like a this is like a bottle of sparkling wine answer, okay? This is what you get. I don't know. How did a polar bear get if I meet again?
SPEAKER_00Maybe I'll come up with a different answer.
SPEAKER_03How did the polar bear get on the island? Yeah, won't put the bear. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Alright. Why aren't you as drunk as I am? I'm a little upset at you right now.
SPEAKER_08I don't know. And I really haven't eaten today, so I'm beers have you had to my bottle? Well, you had a bottle, and this is my third beer. I was about the same, I guess. So I don't know. Alright, let's let's keep going. Favorite moments from season one. What was your favorite moment from season one? And it's I can okay, I'm just gonna interrupt you because it's so funny because that is one of my favorite moments from season one is when he k when Soya kills the polar bear. And you know, like, where did that come from? And he's like, I don't know, Bear Village.
SPEAKER_03I this is a hard one for me.
SPEAKER_00She's still laughing at herself in Bear Village.
SPEAKER_08Um I'm good now.
SPEAKER_03See, I'm usually the one that's laughing at myself. Um, it feels nice to have the tables turned to be the normal one. I say that loosely. I don't have a favorite moment right now. Um, I have like I thought I have my favorite episode was Born to Run. My favorite moment I don't have a favorite moment. I have a moment where I was emotional.
SPEAKER_08Okay, well what moment stands what moment stands out to you from season one of something that like you just enjoyed? I feel like like we've talked about things like this.
SPEAKER_03You know, remember isn't that enough for me to remember? That's the problem.
SPEAKER_08There was um another moment that I know that we definitely talked about was when Sawyer thinks that the boar is after him.
SPEAKER_03Okay, right, right, right. That was that was it, because he was just really fucked up over it, and it was the funniest shit over the funniest shit ever. He's like, that boar's after me. And I'm like, so yeah, okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Because that's that's that's what I would have picked for my second favorite, is when in the morning Sawyer and Kate woke up and Locke joins their campsite, and Locke just shows up and he's like, Hey, what what's up? And and then starts telling the story about how the boy died to him. No, uh the sister. The dog, the dog, and the dog died, and the dog, yes. And and Sawyer is looking at him like, what the fuck are you talking about?
SPEAKER_03It was the quintessential what the fuck face. Like, remember when Shrek, the first Shrek, and Shrek and Donkey go to the castle, and then all the people are dancing, and they had and they take that picture, and they have like that's like and they have like the the fuck? Like, that's there's some scenes in some faces that's the quintessential what the fuck face. And he gave the Shrek what the fuck face. Um, but it kind of makes sense though. And there's like from a viewer's standpoint, the story makes sense. The board, like, the board's not after you, it's for a reason, like you know, but anyway. Um, but yeah, no, his reaction to the boar, he took that shit personal, and that was the funniest shit ever.
SPEAKER_08Um, that was a good that that was a good episode, and and those were some good scenes, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yes, okay. I concur.
SPEAKER_08Okay, next question. What do you think happened to Alex and why was she taken?
SPEAKER_03She?
SPEAKER_08Well, yeah, we know now that Alex is a female.
SPEAKER_01We do, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Don't we? Because this said my child. Right, but at the end, doesn't Rousseau say something?
SPEAKER_01Did I I I'm pretty sure I didn't spoil this.
SPEAKER_03No, because she said they're here for the child, they're here for the child, so I got the I'm here for the boy. We're here for the I remember at the end they're like, I'm here for the boy, so she took the baby, thinking that's what they were talking about. Was I talking about walls? And they took my holy shit. If they did, I missed it.
SPEAKER_08Alright, so remember they Rousseau had her child. Yeah, and okay, so what happened to her child?
SPEAKER_03Why was she taking now? I'm just a little fucked up because I'm like, damn, did I miss something? Is it she? Hey, he, she, whatever. You know what? I don't even know. I didn't even think about that. Um Alex. Like obviously there's something I don't know. Part of me feels like I don't know if they took Alex they took her child per se, because there's a child, or she just I feel like so maybe part of her is this little nutsy cuckoo from being alone by herself for all those years, you know what I mean? And it does something to you.
SPEAKER_08So maybe Alex never existed?
SPEAKER_03No, I feel like I don't think they took her per se for any particular reason, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_08Okay.
SPEAKER_03I don't think they were looking for her per I don't think they took the child per part of me thinks they took the child for any particular reason. I think they're just they're maybe just taking people in general, period. Um but and I just wondered why does she always think I don't know why they even questioned the child specifically as opposed to I don't know. And why would she take it? And if they did take Alex, maybe they were taking the saver. Obviously it has nothing to do with children. Get the boy, get the boy, get the boy. Um makes you wonder why they want the children. Um, but maybe they revere them. People are crazy.
SPEAKER_08Okay, ready for the next one? No, of course I am. Okay, what is the hatch and or what is in the hatch?
SPEAKER_05Well, the hatch I think leads to the other underground city. I really like that answer. Well, thank you.
SPEAKER_03Thank you very much. Okay, I appreciate you for life. I appreciate you, Lisa.
SPEAKER_08Is that it? Is that the end?
SPEAKER_03Is that the end of my thought? Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, okay. And you had some okay, I want you to share what you sent me on season two. Okay. But you you were like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_03Oh, the ermigod. I actually typed out when I was next emailing her. I like to type the ermag. Because I did have should I say I say that part now or later? I don't know how I'm fine. Yeah, go. Okay, so as I'm falling asleep one night, because we're because she has this thing where she wants to zoom in, she wants to have like zoom conferences and talk about things that we got, like she could just text me. So I'm about to go to I just had a fuck with you, Lisa. So that was funny. Um, so I'm about to I'm going to sleep and I'm dozing off and I'm thinking about lost. And you see what I did to you?
SPEAKER_08Look at that. I got my payback. I you're thinking about loss as you're going to sleep.
SPEAKER_03So I know you're so fucking evil bitch. Now, okay. And so I had this like weird epiphany. You ready? Are you ready? I'm ready. I'm ready. And we're sitting down for this. Oh, you're sitting down. Um wait. I don't know how drunk. Um and to be honest, I wasn't drinking when I had this thought. So I think they're all dead. I think that the plane crashed, they all died. And they're still alive because they have a lesson to learn, and you know, they have something to learn, and when they die on the island, they get to move on. And then the ermaga part, I was like, it's like six seasons of the sixth sense, and they're like, wait, hold up, six to six, but anyway, that was just me being silly.
SPEAKER_08But um, it's like another number that we didn't get yet.
SPEAKER_03Right, and I just think it's kind of funny that they had six seasons, and then there's this the sixth sense is the you know, we speak to the dead. I think I think that was kind of funny. That's what the writers meant to do, right?
SPEAKER_08So is this like a purgatory situation? Is that what you're going with that?
SPEAKER_03So yeah, depending on your religious beliefs, yeah. Um, I yeah, I wouldn't say purgatory only because it depends on, you know, everyone has their beliefs, and there's um afterlife waiting room. Do you because there's some religions where you go and like you're going through life to learn a lesson and you're reborn either to learn a new lesson or to relearn a lesson you just never learned, depending on so I think in this case they're learning more, like they're learning that lesson in this sense, and they're moving on to the yeah, um, but then I don't know. That was just my thought. Um but then like was then the thought like six seasons of I don't know. Like, how do you drag that on with six seasons? I don't know.
SPEAKER_08Um I will tell you this.
SPEAKER_03Don't tell me nothing, but go ahead and no, I won't tell you nothing.
SPEAKER_08Tell me, tell me, tell me what you just said is a very common theme. Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay. It's a it's a it's a it's a fan theory.
SPEAKER_08Okay. Um I will not comment further.
SPEAKER_06I don't think I if you did, I'll probably forget.
SPEAKER_08Or just not believe me.
SPEAKER_03Oh, not believe you because you tell me lies all the time. You lie to me, you lie hard, you lie hard. Um, the last time we recorded, you said that the set season two ends in the Arctic. Yes, I did give you that piece of spoiler. And I was like, oh, mind blown. How did it get from like the South Pacific to the fucking Arctic? We're like, how does that happen? Or mirror Emersh this way. I don't know.
SPEAKER_08Um and you and you have a a thought on this.
SPEAKER_03I did. I didn't know. Yes, you did.
SPEAKER_08You wrote, you wrote when when you wrote out your Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So I think I guess I was getting too. I thought it would be my thought when I was recording. So yeah, my thought, I think it ends someone's, I think it ends the Artic doing someone's flashback.
SPEAKER_08Would you like me to confirm or deny?
SPEAKER_03No. I'm being the good girl. I'll find out at season two, season finale.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03I know you are you mad that I don't want to know?
SPEAKER_08I I'm I'm surprised, yeah. I'm a little back from you.
SPEAKER_03I really think people like yes. Because you would hold it back from me, so I got you. Um I'm getting back.
SPEAKER_08You don't think we're ever gonna see him again?
SPEAKER_01Or I didn't say that. Okay. I said I don't think I get back. Right. That's why I'm clarifying. So what do you think? I think there's gonna be a section of the show that's like off on the island, like on the whatever.
SPEAKER_03I think there's gonna be a section of the show that they're living.
SPEAKER_08Meaning that we're gonna see Walt, but he's not gonna be with with the rest of them.
SPEAKER_03So far as they know, he's gone. Yes.
SPEAKER_08Like as far as the rest of the world knows.
SPEAKER_03The rest of the island knows, yes.
SPEAKER_08No, no, no. So, like, meaning that, like, as far as the rest of the world knows, like the people who are on A5 flight A15 are dead. And and it's gonna be like the same kind of dynamic. Where as far as the rest of survivors know, Walt is gone.
SPEAKER_06Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_08Interesting.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Okay. Alright. I think that might actually be the dynamic between most of the people that's on the raft, maybe. I don't think they're ever gonna see the other people on the show. I think they're gonna have their own little separate parallel lives.
SPEAKER_08Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03I think that yeah.
SPEAKER_08In a week you'll find out. Well, ish. But yeah. We'll start with yeah. We'll be back next week with season with our first actually with the first two episodes of season two. We're gonna do um but will we?
SPEAKER_03Will we really?
SPEAKER_08Well, you'll you'll know as much as you'll you're gonna know from season two, episodes one and two. Those are the episodes that we're gonna put out next week.
SPEAKER_03By the time this episode airs, Lisa, we might be out of quarantine. We might be getting our party on and be like, fuck a podcast. Yeah, but no, yeah, no, okay.
SPEAKER_08Okay, wishful thinking. I'm trying. I mean, we might be out of quarantine, but are we really gonna be like partying?
SPEAKER_03I am going to self-quarantine for at least a year. All okay, all joking aside, I'm still gonna like I'm gonna go out with my mask. I'm gonna stay home if I don't have there'll be no partying. No, I yeah. I I obviously people are not building antibodies against this because they're getting sick again.
SPEAKER_08So it's like it's like they say, like, which is I think it's a really good analogy. It's like when the first iPhone, the new iPhone comes out and everyone's ready to get it. And then you have the people who are like, gotta get it on the first day, but then that's the one with the glitches. And so then you have like the second wave of people who are like, I'll wait for the fixes to come out and then I'll get it. Yeah, that'll be me. You guys all go out when the quarantine lifts, you guys all go out. I'll see what happens to you, what they need to fix, and then I'll go. And then I'm and then I'm up.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I got the I thought you were taking it to a whole new level. I'm like, you got the second virus, you got the second strain? Like you're waiting for you to get the new strain of the virus? Okay.
SPEAKER_08No, thankfully, I don't have any strain, and I'd really like to keep it that way.
SPEAKER_03I mean, there is so much we don't know about this particular virus, but there's enough we know about science as a whole to know stay at home is safer right now. That's all I gotta say. But um, I'm gonna say, anyway.
SPEAKER_08Um I mean, this is like the the digital age.
SPEAKER_03If you can't find some shit to do at home these days, I mean and I listen, I get where people's livelihoods are at stake, and it's really scary with the stakes that are opening up, but people don't feel safe enough to work. Like I understand it's a whole, like, I get it. It's not this there is really no right answer in this situation, but there are tons of wrong answers, and I feel like people want the wrong, but yeah, we're talking up fuck it up, my buzz.
SPEAKER_08Sorry. No, I just mean that like people, you know, people are like tired of being at home, and I get it. But we live in in the the age of look, Amazon can have something at your door in two days. You know, the you've got the internet, you've got home delivery, you've got television, computers, phones, you got video chats. There's so right, there's so much technology at your fingertips that can make this easier. You know, if this was 30 years ago, I I could see more so how it could be, you know, worse. But with that being said, yes. You see me dancing, right? I'm trying not to look. Is this affecting your mental health? I'm sure that it is. I'm sure that it's harder on some people than others. Now, with that being said, I don't work in the mental health section. Um my degree does actually kind of um take that into consideration, and I I chose not to work there because I I actually chose to work with children for a nonprofit.
SPEAKER_03However, however, I do understand how important non um, you know, like not being able to go outside and and maintain your same routine and go to work and I get all these things also, but I feel the people who I feel the people that are so against it aren't the people that are suffering with the mental hardship. It's the people that are too privileged. You would think the people that are having a hardship would be like knowing to get out. No, it's the people that are just too privileged to be told what to do for their own safety that doesn't want to stay home.
SPEAKER_08No, and I and I agree, and I think that a lot of times people who do struggle with their mental health are the first people who are or not the first people who who are the people who are less likely to reach out. But but I will say this, and I know that um people that I know with mental health issues are usually not the ones that will text me and say, hey, I'm having a problem, I need you. It it's usually me who has to go to them and check in, and I understand that. Yes, but but uh me on my platform here, I don't know you all personally, but I will say this this is really hard on everybody for different reasons, and they're all valid. If you are one of those people who is not having an easy time with this, who maybe feels like they have no one to talk to, I promise you that if you send us an email or reach out to us, we will be here for you. Even if you just need somebody to talk to, if you want to talk about loss, if you want to talk about what your favorite drink is, if you want to talk about the weather outside, we will make time because this is bigger than the podcast, this is bigger than you or I. And I and I do feel like we are in this together and you know without without you guys and this community, you know, we just it wouldn't be the same. And you you are all important and and you know, we see you as much as we can. And we we're here, we're here as much as we can be.
SPEAKER_07So, you know, reach out if you need to. We're here. I can't promise I won't be drunk, but but I'll be here.
SPEAKER_03I was waiting for that little disclaimer. Thank you for wanting people.
SPEAKER_08I promise I'm educated.
SPEAKER_03I know sometimes I feel that you can't tell by listening to us.
SPEAKER_08I have two degrees.
SPEAKER_03A separation anyway, anyway.
SPEAKER_00Listen, this is sorry, all right.
SPEAKER_08Well, she needs more booze. We gotta wrap this up.
SPEAKER_00I'm not sober enough to finish this podcast episode.
SPEAKER_08But that's but that's what we wanted to, you know, just reiterate. If you didn't already know it, we're people too, you know. We're we're people. Um, yeah. So here's where you can find us.
SPEAKER_03Um, you know what's funny? It's funny you say that, Lisa, because um I'm part of well, I have MS. MS doesn't have me. Um uh so I'm part of a lot of different MS Facebook groups and women and all that fun stuff. And I had a posted a while ago and I shared with my fellow MS warriors. I said, you know, we one of the hardships of having a chronic illness is not getting the support you need from friends and family, whether they because they just don't understand quite as yet, or they just or sometimes you just have toxic people in your lives, or sometimes maybe we just don't explain right. Whatever, there's a whole different array. I said, you know what? During this quarantine time, the staying home owners, I said this is our chance now to support our friends and family. A lot of us have lived this is our like I joke with my I joke with those who know me and love me. I'm like, oh, this is my life. I'm I'm built for this shit. Like, this is all I do anyway. All joking aside, I think this is our chance to reach out to our non-spoony friends and family and support them. How did we get through being disabled all of a sudden and not living the same lives? Um, I think this is our chance to be their support and give them the tools and resources and friendship and love that we've gotten from them or we wish we would have gotten from them. But yeah, this is an opportunity for everyone literally to come together for everybody, spoonies and non-spoonies alike.
SPEAKER_08Right, I I like that. I really like that. I think that it's hard for people in general to understand how people with disabilities live because there's there's the two sides, you know. As a person who's not on you know, disabled, I have people in my family who are disabled. I have very good friends such as yourself who are disabled. And I lucky you. Lucky me. I I know I I don't know, firsthand, I guess, how it is for you or for family members, and I see how what their life is like, how you know adjustments need to be made and new normals have to be established. And so and and I see people who are like, but I don't get it, like they just stay home all day, they don't have this and they don't have that.
SPEAKER_03So I I sort of had to laugh at that because I have former toxic friends that are like that are the same way.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, but go ahead. I'm sorry, Lisa. And so it's either a laugh or I punch them.
SPEAKER_08I know, and so I I see both sides. I and not that I'm saying that I agree with the people who are like, oh, I don't understand what the big deal is. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that I see the one side views it. And there, listen, I'd be lying if I wouldn't be like on on days when the weather is shitty or I just didn't feel well. And the last thing that I want to do is get up and cook for my kids, or have to go to work and deal with a hundred kids that don't even belong to me. And I'm like, fuck, like I want to stay in bed all day and get a paycheck.
SPEAKER_03You know what? To be to like all joking aside, no, not all joking aside, all joking involved. I honestly have those moments where I'm like, oh wait, it's six feet of snow. Ha ha, I'm staying home. Like, I listen, it's not always doom and gloom. Just like this self-stay at home, it's not all doom and gloom. Like, it's not a best situation, but you can make the best out of it. Right. Like, I do have those moments where I'm like, ah, sucks to be you. I'm glad I can't walk right now. Like, you know, you gotta make you gotta joke about it or you're gonna cry about it.
SPEAKER_00It's one of those situations. Yeah, I just I just think that rub it in. You better buy those texts from me to rub it in. Sorry for you.
SPEAKER_08This yeah, this fucking bitch. She really does. Like, oh, how's the weather? Oh, it's yeah, fuck you, I don't have to go out. Oh, I guess I can stay in medal day. But but even though like I may still have those moments where I'm like, God damn it, like I don't want to do this. I get that there's still a difference between the fact that I may not be feeling up to it today, and the people who are not feeling up to it because they physically cannot, and that's the difference. And so you and other people who unfortunately have uh like it sounds so stupid, but like have the life where you stay home every day to people like us on the outside of this whole pandemic seems like oh that's great, like you can just do whatever you want all day. If you don't want to get up and go to work, you don't have to. If you want to go sit outside or you want to go shopping or you wanna whatever, you can. But now that we're all into it, people are suddenly like, holy shit, this is not what I want to do. This is not great. And I think that, like you said, people are finally starting to see that this is this is not what they really want.
SPEAKER_03No, we don't want it, and I think um I um after I like mock my non-spoonly friends that I love, I really and I I hope you know, and hope of people that that know and love me know I'm here for you. I don't think anyone like I like I would definitely like I I'm in contact with some people on a daily basis, so I know you guys are good. And there were some of my friends and family that it's kind of like sporadic, but they know, at least I hope they know I'm here for you. I'll reach like hey, how you like I've called and text people who normally text me, hey, how you doing today? I'm texting them, hey, how are you doing today? How are you holding up? What can I do for you? What's going on? Or I'll crack a joke, or I'll do something stupid, like self-deprecating, and just to make you laugh, I would do it. Um, I think this is uh I think this is when we this is when we just come together any way we can. Well, yeah, because I find that there are some of us chronically ill who are less able than I am, who are really at the mercy of carers. Um, this is your chance to feel once again whole again. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_09Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03And not to be offensive, but because I've no, I've been in that position where I felt useless. I've been in that position where I needed someone to help me get to the bathroom. I've been in the position where I could not walk. So I know how you feel like you're not whole anymore. You're not a real person, you're a blight of society. I get that feeling.
SPEAKER_08This is and the choice, and that's the the biggest thing is that the choice is not ours to make. Right.
SPEAKER_03This is like this is this is given to you. Like, I ain't do anything for this. But I get how you feel that bad, but you can still feel this is the this is a chance where you can feel like, hey, I can still help, I can help my cousin, I can help my neighbor get through this because I've been through it. Oh, I'm going through it, and I can help you get some tips. This is I think we could take a lot of good out of something bad. And can we want anyone to no go ahead, sorry? I just don't want anyone to no, I don't want anyone to think that I'm speaking for from a place where I don't know, because I am relatively good. So people are like, oh well, she might be sick, but she's still able to do A, B, C, and D. I've been, you know, I've been through the whole gamut and I get it. So I don't want anyone to think I'm just talking out of my ass. I'm talking, I'm talking out of a bottle. I granted, I'm talking and we'll be a bottle.
SPEAKER_08All right, and I I will cut this out if you don't want to talk about this. But I okay, so when I talk about our podcast, the question that I get a lot is, oh, that's cool. What made you start a podcast?
SPEAKER_03You don't have to cut this out. I'm actually talking because I'm cool with it. I just don't usually talk about it because it's just every day. Like I don't even think about talking about it. Um, no other reason. This does it doesn't cross my mind. Unless it's applicable to something to poor try to make, it just doesn't cross my mind. Um, so I don't care. You don't have to cut this out. I'm cool with it. I kind of want to spread the love.
SPEAKER_08So here's here's how this kind of got started. Um, as as you probably know by now, Agnes and I grew up together. We met in the third grade, and we have been friends for 30 plus years. I know it doesn't look like it, but you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_05We're only 21 right now.
SPEAKER_08And then when um I don't know how old you were. I don't remember exactly, but it it was like in our 30s, or at least when I found out.
SPEAKER_03Um, um I was um um um I was about 31, about turn 32, I think. Okay, or 30. Um no, I was 30 about turn 30.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_03Fuck. 31-ish.
SPEAKER_08About 10 years ago, you were diagnosed with MS. And it it changed things, but it didn't change things. Um, you know, your your personality is still the same, but now there's limitations. And one of those limitations on you was that you could no longer keep up your lifestyle. So it was a limitation on your physical, the physical aspects of your life.
SPEAKER_03So it's funny when you say there's not there wasn't the the changes and no changes and what I was had to say, and it's not towards you per se, it's like everybody, I hid about 90% of what I was going through.
SPEAKER_08I can I can agree with that because she didn't even tell me or other people for a while.
SPEAKER_03So I didn't know that she was going through this at first, and then as I'm going through it, I didn't tell people how bad I was going through it. It was, I mean, I read reasons. Part of it, when I first got diagnosed, Lisa, I was reading up on it. I'm like, oh, with some adjustments, I can still be okay. Because the numbers were relatively, and I don't want to scare anybody because most of the time you see like you read online, you're like, oh my god, I'm gonna die. This time I was like, oh, okay, listen, 20% chance of this, that's odd is still in my favor. I was went into it really optimistic. So I'm thinking, no need to tell, you know, I don't, I'm okay. It'll be okay. I'll make some adjustments and we'll work it out. And then kind of all hell broke loose. And I said, Here, hold my beer, I've got something for your ass. And I've got something for your ass. And and it, and after then, it's just like I actually went to a deep depression, and my depression showed as anger. I was angry with everybody, I would pick I would have pick fights, but there was like no filter. I was like, Wow. Um, luckily I got out of it relatively quickly, though. But so yeah, I set a bit, I shut a lot of people off until I felt better in my mind, until I was able to reassess things. So yeah.
SPEAKER_08Granted, you and I at that point in our collective lives were in on a lunches, yeah. So it wasn't like a daily thing, like we spoke to each other here and there, and and everything was always good, but it wasn't a day-to-day thing because I had small children at home. You worked like 8,000 hours a week.
SPEAKER_04I missed that.
SPEAKER_08So that but the normal, the normal well, I don't know how the normal the normal day-to-day events didn't include us talking to each other on a daily basis. So I missed a lot of this part because it it just wasn't in the routine, right?
SPEAKER_03It wasn't right, it was still status quo as far as you're concerned, which is great. This and I think a part of me, I think that's what I wanted for most people.
SPEAKER_08Right, you know, as far as I knew, everything was fine because you didn't let on. Come to find out, this is what was going on, and you were moving across the fucking country.
SPEAKER_03Well, I didn't move until like a year after I got diagnosed in 2011. I didn't move to 2013.
SPEAKER_08I know, but it was still relatively quick.
SPEAKER_03It was two years, dude.
SPEAKER_08It wasn't because you didn't tell us right away.
SPEAKER_03I told you only a few months after my diagnosis. I told you it was September of 2011.
SPEAKER_08Um I know, it just felt like so much quicker. It was just like all of a sudden, you're like Yeah, and then like all of a sudden you're gonna move. And I'm like, what's it?
SPEAKER_03We still had like three or four of our luncheons. I know it just I got sick, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, you need to be of course I do, and so I feel like we lost track of where we're going.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, okay. I'm look- I'm about to get us back. Don't worry, I got the car. I got I got the controls. Okay, so you moved, and obviously the relationship, the dynamic changed a little bit because we couldn't do our ladies' lunch. Remember when we did like our fancy lady lunch and we would wear heels and by the way, I'm still mad at all you bitches that didn't continue.
SPEAKER_03I asked, I in my bottom of my heart, I I asked you guys to continue the lunch without me.
SPEAKER_08That's why I'm cutting this out.
SPEAKER_03I'm cutting out and nobody continued it. I've yelled at it. I didn't cut this out. I yelled at every I'm like, my feelings are hurt because it's the only thing I asked of my friends was to continue the ladies' lunch once I moved, and no one did.
SPEAKER_08It just it wasn't the same without you. So we're out of the glue.
SPEAKER_03I didn't fancy one kind of like I don't want to say there's two clicks, but even though we're all friends, it was still was like it's clicky. Okay, do you know how you had those like those little circles? I can't remember the I used to be a fucking jinker. Thank you. Just so you guys know I used to be really, really smart. I swear to god, I used to be smart. Um, so yeah, so while most bands you have like this much of commonality, our friend group had this much commonality.
SPEAKER_00So it was just without me, it became this much commonality.
SPEAKER_08It's True. I know it's like and and we all it sounds stupid, but it's kind of like we were in the same elementary school and junior high school.
SPEAKER_06All of us.
SPEAKER_08And yes, and actually I was in the same elementary school as everyone else even before you got there.
SPEAKER_03Right. Because I was a new girl in third grade. Right.
SPEAKER_08Right. But I never I wasn't friends with them. I I was more of like a you were like my first friend. I didn't really have friends until you came. And then it was like You were my only friends. So naturally I can just, you know, talk to you because you didn't know that I was like, you know, the outcast or or whatever. Like nobody wanted to talk to me. I don't know. And so like we became friends, but then you moved. I I moved for one year, and then I came back.
SPEAKER_00A lot happens in one year when you're nine. I'm just saying at age nine, a year is like a decade. It's true. It's it's it's true.
SPEAKER_08And but then even after I came back, I had you, and then I had Jennifer.
SPEAKER_03I still felt like we were like, I felt like I want to reconnect on that level, and I still treated you as I still felt like you was a friend, but I felt like we still had our own separate friends.
SPEAKER_08Did I make I feel like we're part of Venn diagram again? Yes, because then you got closer to like I don't and you know the funny thing is, and I got closer to Jennifer.
SPEAKER_03Yes. I I was talking to Angelique the other day, and neither one of us can remember how we became friends, when we became friends. It was just like poof win each other's lives.
SPEAKER_08And I have nothing, like I don't know, like this this probably is not gonna sound great, but like I really have nothing against Angelique at all. Like she's fine, she's great, but had it not been for you, I don't think her and I ever would have been friends. Right.
SPEAKER_03There's just some reasons it's just some personalities that like if it wasn't for something to bring up together, it's a chemical reaction with two atoms. If you don't have that catalyst, like I see, I told you guys I was smart. Um if you don't have a catalyst to like together, you are the catalyst. I mean, like nothing's wrong with each individual molecule or atom. They're all they're fine and they're happy, but sometimes the catalyst would come and just bring them all happy together. I don't know.
SPEAKER_08Anyway, all right, so the the point was alcohol. Wait, what's the point again? Okay, you moved. All right, you guys keep the lunch going on. Forget the lunch, and the dynamic shifted, and so we we talk, we text, Facebook, whatever. But and we've we've seen each other, you know, we've we've uh visited both, you know, back and forth. What the fuck was that?
SPEAKER_03My um update, virus protection. They like to update your thing.
SPEAKER_08Sorry, okay, um and a lot of a lot of times what the conversation comes down to is TV, and I feel like it was just a perfect segue because this is something that like no matter what, no matter what you're dealing with or where you are, this is something that we have in common.
SPEAKER_03You know the funny thing is, I felt I felt like this idea of yours came out of the field. I'm like, huh?
SPEAKER_08But we always end up talking about like things that we're watching or TV.
SPEAKER_03Do we we need I need more of a life? Shit. You and me both now he talking about how you took how you took it to the though, it makes sense now. I'm like, okay, I can see how because I was like, I don't what oh okay, I can drink, but I'm there.
SPEAKER_08So this is this is our weekly date. So okay, okay, I think I need a disclaimer. And you know, this is our way of keeping it light in a heavy world, you know. Everybody got their own shit, and this is just easy.
SPEAKER_03Except I'm trying to get the right lighting. Pain in the ass. I can't tell you how many times I'm a fucking aggravated as fuck because I live in the fucking cave. Um, disclaimer, unless I'm doing this for Lisa, I'm not drinking. I don't drink like that. There's times where I don't even have, I gotta go out and get something just to have for the recording. So I'm I'm not as bad as I see. I swear.
SPEAKER_08I think the only time that you drink is when we record or when we are actually physically together.
SPEAKER_03And even then, that much kind of driving. That's true. Like since I've moved here, I don't drink much at all because I have this thing about I need to be able to leave when I want to leave. Yeah, it's always say back home. I didn't have that problem, just jump on the train. Now that you know, get the driver where so I don't drink much at all anymore.
SPEAKER_08Yep.
SPEAKER_03So people must think I'm a lush.
SPEAKER_08This is I think this is I don't know if this is inspirational or depressing. I think we should wrap it up.
SPEAKER_03I think it's inspirational, damn it. You could be just as wacky as we are. Okay, that's depressing.
SPEAKER_08Sorry. All right. You you've we have social media. Follow us. Um see that right down there?
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_06Twitter. Right there. Go see go down there and read.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. Uh we're on Twitter, on Facebook, we're on Instagram. You can email us at assassinsips at gmail.com. You can call us. I don't know the number right this second. We'll put our email and our phone number in the in the comments so you can find us there too. Now, very important. Stay tuned. Next week we begin our adventure into season two.
SPEAKER_01Somewhere beyond the sea.
SPEAKER_08Oh, that should have been one of the questions. Like, how much more will Agnes sing in season two?
SPEAKER_03My lover stands on golden sands.
SPEAKER_08Are you excited for season two?
SPEAKER_00Stay tuned as we begin our venture into lost season two. I'm excited.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_08And very importantly, drink but drink responsibly. Do not drink and drive. I'll say it again. Read that again. Drink responsibly.
SPEAKER_03At home. Do not drink and drive.
SPEAKER_08Yes, do not drink and drive. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you for being here with us. And don't forget, stay tuned for next week when we start season two. Drink responsibly. Follow us on social media. Rate review and subscribe. Tell people. Because that helps. Um, what else?
SPEAKER_03Call. Yes. We have a phone number. Call us, tell us suggestions, tell us we're hysterical, tell us that we're fucking stupid. Call us. Tell us. We want to hear it all.
SPEAKER_08You can text us at that number too. You don't you don't have to use your voice. You can call, you can text. Yeah. We listen. If you tell somebody that we exist, we appreciate it. If you follow us on social media, we appreciate it. Every little thing that you guys do to help us grow this podcast, we appreciate it. And we thank you. The other thing that you guys can do is to show our sponsors some love.
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SPEAKER_08If you yes, our sponsors are in our show notes. If you use our promo call uh hold on, if you use our promo code SASPod when you purchase anything, that will help pay the bills for this podcast. We appreciate that. Please show them some love. And until next time, I'm Lisa. She's Lisa. And she's Agnes.
SPEAKER_03I'm Agnes.
SPEAKER_08And we are out of here. Yes.
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